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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back tonight i'm uh excited for

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tonight uh because

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we have a friend of the show manny from

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area 503

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uh he has been a panel member here a few

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times and talked about how he was

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developing a documentary all about lou

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elizondo

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uh

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so-called disclosure advocate

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and um

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like many people i have an incredible

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amount of questions about louis elizondo

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questions that i would have uh love to

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ask him in an interview but despite

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mr elizondo claiming that he will go on

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anyone's show after uh repeated repeated

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attempts to get him to do an interview

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here

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we never got a reply now mr elizondo has

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been on tiny tiny podcasts and channels

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so i'm not quite sure why he has so far

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uh not accepted our invitation

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i have

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asked some questions to him while he was

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on another show and that didn't go too

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well

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others uh within the so-called ufo

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community have a lot of questions for mr

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lou elizondo as well

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i began to plan doing some sort of deep

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dive into mr elizondo's history

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the statements that he has made

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uh maybe his work history his military

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history but i found the task to be

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overwhelming uh there's so much

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information it's almost information

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overload to be able to do a really

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thorough job at answering a singular

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question which i think is very important

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and that is who's lou

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who is this man that came virtually out

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of nowhere and became a media star

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uh he's been on fox news and cnn and all

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and as now starting to appear at

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conferences he's got a book deal he was

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i still have a lot of questions

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and i was thankful to find that somebody

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else was working very diligently to

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answer a lot of my questions

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just so happens to be a fortunate event

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that i met this person manny from area

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503 he started he and i started talking

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about some of his

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um revelations and some of the things

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that he was finding out in researching

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this documentary who's lou

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and i'm happy to say that we have an

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exclusive uh sneak peek we're the first

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and and i want to thank manny from area

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503 for letting us do this

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we are going to be the first people who

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a portion of the new film

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get yourself a cold beverage relax we've

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rather than try to talk over it or

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anything like that i think that this

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work is important enough and that people

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are interested enough in lu elizondo and

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this new upcoming documentary who's lou

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that we're just going to give you the

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the promo for it the preview that manny

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so um we're gonna cite fair use this is

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transformative work

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and we're educating the public about

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about this new documentary from

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uh but we're fortunate to get a 10 or 12

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uh of the documentary so that you can

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get some sense of what questions will be

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uh from this exciting new documentary i

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for one cannot wait for this i've been

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waiting for a while hearing various bits

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and pieces of what manny has been

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working on but i'm very excited that we

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could share with you uh this truth

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seekers

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we have tackled many strange stories on

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60 minutes but perhaps none like this

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here to discuss luis elizondo former

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director of the pentagon's advanced

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ufos have captivated the public interest

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for decades but they've always been

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dismissed including by me as the

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province of wackos luisa elizondo is a

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and currently works with the stars

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academy in the history channel and he

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joins us now my name is lou elizondo

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for nearly the last decade i ran a

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appear to violate physics that are

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adversarial technology we know that the

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on october 14 2017

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luis lu daniel elizondo iv stepped on

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stage in seattle washington announcing

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lew would instantly rise to the top of

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the ufo subculture being backed by a

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global media campaign labeling him as a

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previous to this day no one outside of

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of defense industry contractors had ever

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heard of the name lou elizondo

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very little is known about mr elizondo

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beyond the biography that is listed on

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his website at louis elizondo official

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there remain to this day some very

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serious and alarming unanswered

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every piece of evidence obtained in the

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making of this documentary was located

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during a thorough search of public

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public i have gone to great lengths to

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hello i'm tom delong and thanks for

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joining us live today so i want you to

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all meet lou elizondo

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well thanks tom for that very

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special introduction

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my name is lou elizondo

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am accustomed to being involved in close

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hold nuanced programs involving national

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officer and an intelligence practitioner

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by far the most interesting effort i was

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involved with was the topic of advanced

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for nearly the last decade i ran a

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navigating to luis elizondo official dot

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former senior intelligence official

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former director of the pentagon's ufo

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my mission

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quo of the past 75 years of ufo uap

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secrecy and champion its disclosure in a

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to challenge the status quo of the past

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however it is unclear what if anything

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suspect as no one truly knows who paid

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champion for ufo disclosure while others

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has lou elizondo contributed to the

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disclosure process and whose interest is

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he truly representing

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these will be the first of many

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unanswered questions and contradictions

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that arise when we look at the public

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and then compare them to the evidence

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and facts and then we ask the question

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career intelligence officer with

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of national intelligence from the images

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lou portrays himself to the world his

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image is one of a stoic soldier that has

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i'm the son of a cuban immigrant father

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who was a dissident of the castro

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regiment

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my father spent time as a political

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prisoner for his involvement in the bay

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of pigs

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i grew up in south florida and as a

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young man i was often exposed to my

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father's efforts in helping change the

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just like in his early years there is

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significantly more to the story of lou

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in college and his years leading into

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the army than the official webpage

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suggests

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this could be the most consequential

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thing to happen to this country to this

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world maybe ever

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in february of 2001 lou filed for the

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right to claim a patent for his first

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invention and i have to admit that when

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i discovered that lou was an inventor i

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was very curious to see what sort of an

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invention that a guy with a double

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degree in microbiology and immunology

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and a minor in chemistry plus a few

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years of military experience could come

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up with

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however just like in the case of lou's

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previous army experience the only

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verifiable information that i could find

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about his career up to this point was

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his own statement on his official

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webpage and the single accompanying

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photo that lou had titled korea one

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there is zero verifiable evidence to

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support lou's statement here beyond his

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own words and a photo that he has

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provided just like every other portrayal

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of lou's life the source is lou elizondo

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himself

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so here we have yet another unanswered

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question is this all true or is it

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simply an embellished war story

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if you google the term atip you will see

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that there are thousands of news

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articles about the program the first

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piece that we have are the elite a tip

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slides that were located on christopher

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mellon's official website

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october 4th

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2017

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lou elizondo tendered his resignation

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from the department of defense

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lou cited a myriad of fake

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unsubstantiated allegations at the

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who's lou

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this documentary was an investigation

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into the public records of a public

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figure any inclusion of personal

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information was to illustrate the

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contradictory nature of mr elizondo's

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public words and the public records and

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solely for that purpose

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all of the information contained in this

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documentary was found in the public

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record the information contained in this

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film is for educational purposes only

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[Music]

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sorry there we have it friends an

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exclusive first peek at the new

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documentary film by manny from area 503

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titled who's lou and uh i gotta tell you

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uh i am already interested in seeing the

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entire thing

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and i can't wait to see what other uh

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little bits of information

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this film is going to include i know

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that the filmmaker has been hard at work

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on this thing for quite some time

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trying to find every bit of information

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that he could to answer the question

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who's lou and in another uh truth

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seekers exclusive we have the filmmaker

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himself here manny from area 503

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welcome manny

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hello hi

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i want to thank you for giving us the

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first crack at this to see uh see a good

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chunk of this because you ask a lot of

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interesting questions in this

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and there's a lot of things that just

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don't make sense about this man

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in my view

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yeah you know one of the quotes that i

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used in the promo there you'll hear in

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the movie is that um there's unanswered

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questions and contradictions around lou

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and that's really what it comes down to

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is

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when are we ever going to get an answer

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to these questions and how long can we

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wait before we say they're never going

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to come and we just move on and say the

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guy's just not going to explain himself

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he's just going to do what he wants to

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do and

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you know

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you can either as he puts it get on

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board the train or or get off

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[Laughter]

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yeah and i find it interesting that

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there's this sort of uh

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um

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i i guess you know like he's he's very

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up on doing interviews for very friendly

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people that are sort of fans do you know

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what i mean and it seems like

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i have yet to see one hardball interview

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of him in years now like i for one would

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like to know why nobody asks him where

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the ttsa money went

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and and his involvement with them they

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promised us a spaceship uh he was in

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that organization when they promised

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investors a spaceship we haven't seen a

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spaceship nobody knows 34 million

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dollars pretty much vanished right i

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don't know

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why is it do you think that

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it just seems this is like a carefully

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crafted media narrative

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right

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uh that's kind of my feeling and that's

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what it feels like you know uh when you

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have a one-sided narrative and uh you

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know it's just

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shoved down your throat everywhere you

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look it kind of um it

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it overwhelms any contradictory

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statements from people or questions when

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people say hey you know what's going on

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here it overwhelms you you know because

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for every guy like me who's gonna

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question his story there's a thousand

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people out there who will just accept it

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and repeat it and retweet it and you

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know go on and have the guy on his lives

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on their their streams and let him say

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whatever he wants but

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um i have yet to really see anybody hold

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him to task as far as having him prove

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anything you know he's he hasn't shown

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his dd you know 214 somebody i saw

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somebody in the chat had asked about

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that

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so far as i know other people including

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myself have filed for it and just not

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received them

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but that was something i wanted to get

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for this film unfortunately the office

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that processes those forms was um at a

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you know marginal amount of capacity

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because of the the recent pandemic and

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whatnot so they were only processing

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emergency requests which i understand

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you know um so at some point i'll get it

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maybe or they'll tell me they won't give

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it to me you know but i'll get it yeah i

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think

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that you have to be a family member to

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get the dd214 i don't think that the

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dd214s are are public

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i don't know i filed for

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different versions on on the website and

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i told them i was an investigator and

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that it was a public information request

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so you know we'll see what they do yeah

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we'll see what happens let me know let

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me know if you ever come back with an

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answer because i if it was just if it

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was just possible to file some forms and

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get his dd214 i would i would

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hope that somebody already did that but

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yeah i think people have maybe tried you

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know i filed for a um

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excuse me there's a censored version

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that you can get a redacted version

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which and then the full version so we'll

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see if they give me one or the other but

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you know it might come out at some day

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someday you know a lot of stuff has come

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out you know like he you know uh john

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greenwald at the black vault has a lot

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of documents about lou that people don't

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really know about or they they don't

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really understand what they mean you

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know and

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um it is a little confusing

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oh it's extremely confusing yeah i mean

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especially like if you separate the

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question of a tip from who's lou

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completely which i tried to do in this

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film and i i have to talk about atip a

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little bit but that literally could be

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its own documentary on its own you know

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it doesn't you know that that whole

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issue is just

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so clouded with lies and misinformation

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and partial truths and just everything

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i can't understand why we can't get a

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straight answer it's like i ran the

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program the pentagon says no you didn't

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i was in the program the pentagon says

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no you weren't you had no responsibility

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then they said yes you did and then we

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have this book with george knapp and and

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we find out that the the a-tip program

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that he claimed was funded to the tune

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of 20 something million

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had no funding and that was another

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program that really got that funding and

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it's like never a straight answer we we

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get this circle

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of of like obfuscation it seems like you

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know and like you said misinformation

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disinformation it's like they're trying

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on purpose to cloud the waters you know

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thank you annie kurtz for crying and

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generous 4.99 super chat love steven and

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true seekers family thank you annie

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kurtzer kindness your generosity and

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00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,799
your support we appreciate that we're

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viewer supported show

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so

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how long is the finished documentary

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you're still tweaking the final four i

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know that but

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yeah i've i've requested to like you

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know like you said i i requested that

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lou would be interviewed for this

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because there's a lot of information in

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here that i would honestly prefer to

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leave out of the documentary if he can

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exclude himself from it or say yeah that

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isn't me or no that's not right or

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whatever i would love to give him that

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chance because i don't want to put this

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out

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um you know if if there's information in

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there that's gonna make the dang guy you

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know like personal information that's

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gonna make him look bad or embarrass him

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00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,440
that's not what this is about but this

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is about proving as i said in the promo

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the contradictory the contradictory

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nature between what he says and what the

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records show you know and

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so we really in this are just looking at

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the records we're isolating the stories

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because those are just stories and we're

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looking at the facts you know um

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so yeah that's where i go here but

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everywhere you turn

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you find contradictions like you said

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and it's not just a tip it's like like

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that with lou in his life too you find

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00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:53,520
contradictions you read the webpage and

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it reads like a book or a novel or a you

555
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,520
know a super soldier spy film or

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something but when you start diving into

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it you see a life of um

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00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,480
well it

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00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,640
ordinary life the guy's just a dude i

560
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:08,000
took him down off the pedestal by

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researching him he used to be this

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mythical guy lou elizondo and he's not

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anymore he's now luis daniel elizondo iv

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and he's a man who can't be trusted

565
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:17,760
because he will say

566
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,240
whatever he wants to get what he wants

567
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,320
you know that's my opinion at the end at

568
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:24,320
the end of the day of looking at all of

569
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,120
the evidence you know so i've been i've

570
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,200
been fascinated with his ability to make

571
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:31,919
claims and then and then scurry away

572
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:33,840
when people ask for proof of the claims

573
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,960
that he makes you know so far we've got

574
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,640
him saying that there was crash

575
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,440
retrievals and and they have

576
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,760
you know portions of crash retrievals

577
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,520
and even up to saying that they have

578
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,360
biological samples but again when

579
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:49,200
pressed for proof he doesn't have any

580
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,039
proof of any of

581
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:53,200
of the stuff that he's claiming

582
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:55,200
i guess we're supposed to just believe

583
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:57,279
based on his uh

584
00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,919
you know his own claims or his

585
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:01,760
reported history

586
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:03,919
running these programs and and i don't

587
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:06,159
buy it if you don't have you know some

588
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,679
kind of backup for the claims as well

589
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:11,360
yeah

590
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,799
i'll go ahead

591
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:15,279
he rubber stamped the approval right of

592
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,880
getting some of these videos out of the

593
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:19,200
pentagon and then he profited from those

594
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:22,240
videos for the next bunch of years

595
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,960
so

596
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:24,480
that's problematic for me and i want to

597
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:25,840
thank leigh guy for kind of generous

598
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,039
4.99 saying lou kardashian yeah it

599
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:31,120
becomes like a soap opera for some

600
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,880
doesn't it manny like it's it's like a

601
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,799
soap opera like what what did lou say

602
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,360
this week and people follow him from

603
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,679
appearance to appearance and talk about

604
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,440
him on twitter and

605
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:43,200
some people believe that he's like the

606
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,320
uh

607
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,399
the disclosure savior he's gonna bring

608
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:48,640
us the truth about aliens

609
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,600
and i

610
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:51,760
i'm still suspect

611
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,159
especially because you know in the ufo

612
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,480
world it has been accepted mythology or

613
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:58,000
belief or

614
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,679
whatever that the government has been

615
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:02,320
lying to us for 70 years and now we're

616
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,520
supposed to believe that some guy that

617
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,760
worked at the pentagon quit in a huff

618
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,200
and he's going to come and give us the

619
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,360
truth about the aliens

620
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,760
and the ufos and

621
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:13,840
okay well yes right there's a few

622
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:15,279
questions people are going to have about

623
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,960
that story and his um tendency to just

624
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,120
ignore those questions and roll on with

625
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,520
his narrative which is what he does is

626
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:25,840
is catching up to him because he's just

627
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,760
kicked the can so far down the road with

628
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:29,120
all of these questions that they're all

629
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,559
piling up now people are saying what's

630
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,480
going on man you have to slow your roll

631
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,080
down a little bit you know we've all

632
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,399
heard the ufo stories what what i mean

633
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,399
what possibly knew could that guy say

634
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:40,159
that he hasn't said over the last four

635
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,559
years um unless something new becomes

636
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:44,720
unclassified that he can speak about

637
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,039
he's really come to the end of his of

638
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,039
the road and so if you look at his

639
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,200
recent appearances he's not he's talking

640
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,679
about things like einstein's theory of

641
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:55,760
relativity and he's talking about things

642
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,159
like higher psychic vibrations and

643
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,480
things that the guy has no clue what

644
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,640
he's really what he's talking about he

645
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:04,320
just you know right but there's no

646
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:05,679
promises

647
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,520
oh he's going to have this book and it's

648
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,279
going to have never before

649
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,120
heard revelations in it it's gonna have

650
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,039
a bombshell in it and

651
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,679
you know and again i i i'm setting up

652
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:19,919
myself for it i'll buy the book but i'm

653
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,399
sure it will get myself for a nothing

654
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:24,640
burger because you're really four years

655
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,149
stephen king if you wanna

656
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:35,919
the guy's not creative and he's not

657
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:37,760
gonna come up with some cool story it'll

658
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:39,919
be some bs it'll it'll read like the day

659
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,960
after roswell like uh by colonel corso

660
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,279
you know it'll be every ufo rumor that

661
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,360
he ever heard in the military but he was

662
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,360
there you know and that's just what the

663
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,679
guy does man he just he puts himself in

664
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,600
the middle of it all because of i don't

665
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:55,840
know ego i don't know i mean why why

666
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,240
would a career intelligence officer quit

667
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:00,640
the pentagon and and throw his pension

668
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,360
away three years before he could retire

669
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:05,840
and then go with ttsa he's probably

670
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,960
gonna make more money he's definitely

671
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,120
got more fame now he's not just going to

672
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,760
retire into obscurity and be some some

673
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,279
intelligence guy who hangs around

674
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:15,120
langley and talks with people and you

675
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:17,039
know like although that nothing wrong

676
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:18,480
with that that sounds like a cool life

677
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,870
yeah i hang out at the water cooler and

678
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,640
listen to all the bs and the rumors man

679
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,399
are you freaking kidding me but you know

680
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:29,919
like i think he really didn't want to

681
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:32,000
just disappear into obscurity so he made

682
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,159
his play you know but

683
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:36,799
there's some very very serious evidence

684
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,640
that shows he had been planning to do

685
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,880
this for a long time and so when he sits

686
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,440
there and says uh i never heard of tom

687
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:46,240
delong before i i left the pentagon i

688
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:48,840
was never a part of anything before

689
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,279
that i would go so far as to say that

690
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,279
those are lies you know like there's

691
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:54,960
enough evidence that he needs to provide

692
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,799
some counter evidence to show that what

693
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,320
he says is true because there's enough

694
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,159
evidence that shows that that statement

695
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:02,000
isn't true and that he had been planning

696
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:04,640
his move from the department of defense

697
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:08,080
to the ttsa for a very long time he quit

698
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,320
and he was on ttsa like the very next

699
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,399
week right seven days

700
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,919
seven days after he tendered his

701
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,679
resignation towards the press conference

702
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:17,600
which the day that when they first came

703
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:19,679
out i thought was the suspect i was like

704
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,279
how did they put this together in seven

705
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,159
days man a full-on press conference like

706
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,159
that's a lot of production

707
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,840
that's another thing though it wasn't it

708
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:29,600
wasn't a true press conference because i

709
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,120
don't believe there was any press there

710
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:32,960
it was just a media it was then you're

711
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:35,360
right about putting it on youtube so

712
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,480
that's right

713
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:38,640
you know and that's the one that's the

714
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:41,440
press conference where

715
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:43,919
they promised everybody a spaceship

716
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,000
manny i want to ride on the spaceship

717
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:48,320
with lou elizondo and

718
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:50,799
and uh and tom delong but nobody's

719
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,120
allowed to play tom the long music on a

720
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,600
ride you know oh you don't want to jam

721
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:57,760
angels and airwaves on there i mean

722
00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:00,000
and it's another suspect part of this

723
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,840
whole thing it's like

724
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,559
people i talk about all that in there

725
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,279
yeah in the movie i think that was crazy

726
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,039
because people are like well tom delong

727
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:11,440
doesn't need the money yeah he did and

728
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:14,960
yes he does apparently and

729
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,519
i just i tried to follow the money right

730
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:19,919
i tried to read these financial reports

731
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,120
that they were filing and it's a it's a

732
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:25,840
maze of like mirrors and

733
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,240
nothing makes any sense like where how

734
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,240
much money is coming in what's going out

735
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:32,240
like where is all this investor money

736
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:33,440
being spent

737
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,600
and lou never answers any questions

738
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,760
about that and he quit ttsa and i guess

739
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:40,240
he feels like well now i don't have to

740
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:43,760
to answer for anything ttsa did or said

741
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,399
and it's like a safety for him he refers

742
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,799
everything to any any ttasa question he

743
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:51,200
gets he refers back to them which is is

744
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,399
kind of interesting because like you

745
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:53,840
said they promised us not only a

746
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:56,240
spaceship they promised us the ttsa

747
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:57,279
would also have an entertainment

748
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:58,880
division which it now does in the form

749
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:01,440
of angels versus airwaves but there's

750
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:03,200
some really interesting points about

751
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,840
angels versus airwaves ttsa and all that

752
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:07,919
i cover a little bit of it in in the

753
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,720
movie but i don't talk

754
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,039
so they collected investor money so that

755
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,760
tom delonge could pay his band like it

756
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:17,120
doesn't that doesn't matter i don't know

757
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,399
if that's why they did it but that's

758
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,320
what he did with it i mean that's what

759
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,159
he did with some of it

760
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,399
listen i was a rock guy and i was in

761
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,559
rock bands for 20 years let me tell you

762
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:28,799
something touring even

763
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,240
is expensive it's expensive hotel rooms

764
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:34,480
and and uh you know

765
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,000
for everybody it's expensive as [\h__\h] i

766
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:40,000
don't this is my personal opinion i

767
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,600
don't think that tom delong is selling

768
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,760
enough records to cover his own nut with

769
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,679
his banned angels and airwaves now

770
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,840
that's my opinion but i do have 20 years

771
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:49,840
in that world so i think i have an

772
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:53,440
informed you know a bit of knowledge on

773
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:54,880
how this

774
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,519
works and it's even worse now because

775
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,919
there's no there's there's very little

776
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:01,760
money now there's no money for records

777
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,120
all the money now is only in the the

778
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,200
the fee you get for performing there's

779
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,960
almost no money in selling records

780
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:10,240
anymore so

781
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:12,000
i don't think that he's covering his nut

782
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,520
with that band i think that he's

783
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,159
subsidizing it with some of this

784
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,079
ttsa investors

785
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,560
definitely crazy no he definitely is

786
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,079
that's on the public record in those

787
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:23,679
public filings that you talked about i

788
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,280
went through those as well from what i

789
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:26,320
read

790
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:29,280
yeah i spent a good you know week on the

791
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:30,879
corporation wikis going through

792
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,560
different things and tracking down how

793
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,879
the thing was set up and actually

794
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,879
way back when tts started there's a

795
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:38,879
there's a youtube channel called ufo

796
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,320
seekers that did a uh expose

797
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,639
yeah he destroyed him

798
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:46,960
he showed them that what tom delong had

799
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:49,599
done was balled up about i think it was

800
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,280
240 000 of his own personal debt dumped

801
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,119
that into ttsa

802
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:57,280
and then gone public so that the company

803
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:58,880
started in the hole with his personal

804
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,119
debt but since then i've i've realized

805
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,800
he's done far more things with that

806
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,480
business to

807
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,520
leverage

808
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:07,920
everything in his favor and

809
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:09,280
um

810
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,720
you know i want to be careful how i say

811
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,920
this you know because i'm not trying to

812
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,440
misrepresent what happened in these in

813
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,599
these papers but if you look at the

814
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,680
public statements it does show that

815
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,880
basically

816
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:21,760
he loaned personal money from tom delong

817
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:24,640
to the company under um i'm not sure if

818
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:25,920
shell company is the right way of

819
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:27,440
putting it but it is it's a company that

820
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,320
he owns that he loaned another company

821
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:33,280
money that he owns and secured that loan

822
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,560
with all of the

823
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:36,720
uh ttsa intellectual property which

824
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:39,920
includes angels versus airwaves so

825
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,560
if the whole thing goes oops sorry bang

826
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:44,240
my mic there the whole thing goes belly

827
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,520
that's what i said it gets it gets

828
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:47,119
confusing because it's like he owns all

829
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,240
that from this

830
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:50,160
company gives money to this company and

831
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,599
this company is loaning money to this

832
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,839
company and it's all it becomes

833
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:56,160
mixed in yeah yeah there's some tools

834
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,760
out there you can use to help visualize

835
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:59,839
it the corporation corporation wiki is

836
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,040
the best because it'll show you the

837
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,760
corporations with the different links um

838
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,440
and it works best with small you know

839
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:07,040
people only have a few businesses if you

840
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,400
go in there and put in lockheed martin

841
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,760
it'll like crash your computer because

842
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:12,240
there's so many you know subsidiaries

843
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,960
and owned companies and whatever but um

844
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,960
you know um you know on the rise says

845
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,640
something about that ttsa has been quiet

846
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,320
i imagine we'll never hear anything from

847
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,640
ttsa again other than angels versus

848
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:24,400
airwaves and they'll probably ride that

849
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,440
as far as they can go um or not i think

850
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,960
i think there might be a couple of new

851
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,880
books or maybe another document oh yeah

852
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:31,839
yeah

853
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:34,720
something like that but we're not going

854
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,640
to see anything like like from lou for

855
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,920
certain he has no reason to give them

856
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,920
anything and i question whether he has

857
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,119
anything to give them or could get

858
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,680
anything to give them you know i'm not

859
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:45,119
sure what sort of contacts he might

860
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,680
still have inside the pentagon but i'm

861
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,160
guessing after all of the theatrics over

862
00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:52,480
the last few years and you know with 180

863
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,160
day report all the pressure he put on

864
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:55,920
them they're probably not too happy with

865
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,400
them you know so i i doubt he's got

866
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:00,560
anything more and that's kind of why he

867
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,680
shifted his role from a celebrity um uh

868
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:05,920
like a celebrity influencer into more of

869
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:08,240
a lobbyist and so you'll see him now oh

870
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,520
we're going to pressure congress into

871
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,680
all this well i'm not impressed because

872
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,359
the same people that they're that that

873
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:15,119
they're you know pressuring in congress

874
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:16,400
are i hate to say it but all these

875
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,000
junior people who are just getting in

876
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,079
that are like oh i'm happy

877
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,599
committee like

878
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,599
you know like give me a break man like

879
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:25,359
it's so transparent and the other thing

880
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:27,280
is this you know the other thing is this

881
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,160
effort like oh call your congressman

882
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:31,520
call your senator that's what i mean

883
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:33,280
like they give us

884
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,920
they give a [\h__\h] about this subject they

885
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:38,720
don't care most of them they have unless

886
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,960
you're a lobbyist with a big fat

887
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,400
bankroll

888
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,160
that will get that senator or that

889
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,320
congressman's attention they don't care

890
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:48,400
what you're calling about they don't

891
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,359
care

892
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,960
no you're lucky if you get like a form

893
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,400
letter response you know like an

894
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:54,079
automated response or anything every

895
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:55,599
time i've ever written into a senator

896
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:58,480
about anything uh i've just been ignored

897
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,800
so uh you know and i did i wrote in

898
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,359
about lou elizondo to uh ron wyden here

899
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:05,040
in oregon who's a senator who's on the

900
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,400
senate intelligence committee and i said

901
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:07,760
ron what the hell is going on with this

902
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,640
guy you know who is he is he is he legit

903
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:12,000
is he uh you know

904
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:13,359
crickets man he didn't want to say

905
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,240
anything you know so

906
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:18,880
but he did have me do his mailing list

907
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,160
thanks

908
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:23,119
yeah yeah so you know uh donate to my

909
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,800
campaign right you start getting those

910
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,240
emails right

911
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,079
right right right i'm like well do

912
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,839
something for me maybe i will

913
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,280
i don't like

914
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,800
but i think you're right there's a lot

915
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:34,160
of money and there's a lot of money

916
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:35,520
besides the uh

917
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,280
besides the ttsa his time at ttsa you

918
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,359
know there's also the this

919
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,200
sort of uh

920
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,520
media blitz that he almost went on after

921
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,160
leaving ttsa became suddenly a lot more

922
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,160
accessible but again only to very

923
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,240
friendly

924
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,160
interviewers i would say

925
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,000
yeah he he would pre-screen just like he

926
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,160
does now if you reach out he'll ignore

927
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,000
you he'll go out and look at your work

928
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,760
if you're friendly on him then he'll

929
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,680
contact you back if you're not if you're

930
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,839
questioning in any way

931
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,760
you get nothing he just ignores you you

932
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:09,040
know and it's just

933
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,079
honestly

934
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,000
it's childish and it's

935
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,480
rude and it just shows

936
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,320
it shows how he wants to pretend like

937
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,839
he's someone that he's not like he's

938
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,680
some big celebrity taunt like he's some

939
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,920
big you know like he you know like there

940
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:22,960
was somebody in the chat who's like

941
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,680
elizondo 2024 like give me a break this

942
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,520
guy's a poser man i'm sorry in his own

943
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,440
words he is and i'll prove that in the

944
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:31,599
film watch my movie you'll hear how it

945
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:32,240
is

946
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,119
it's you all that he's full of crap you

947
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,200
know but whatever uh you know people

948
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,640
will still believe him either you know

949
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:40,560
like you can you could lead a horse to

950
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:42,320
water you can't make him drink so here's

951
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,680
the proof in this and the reason i did

952
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:45,760
this was because you know i would

953
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:46,800
question

954
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:49,520
lou on social media and some of his more

955
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,720
um

956
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,000
how do you call this like devout

957
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,400
followers will just not listen to reason

958
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:56,079
and i got tired of repeating myself to

959
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,760
these people so now i could just point

960
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,760
myself at this film and say there's the

961
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:01,280
evidence go look at it and if you have

962
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,800
some piece of evidence to counter what

963
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:04,160
i've displayed i'd love to talk to you

964
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:07,359
about it other than that

965
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,720
what more somebody you know like

966
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,960
somebody's mentioning lou attacking you

967
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,480
with a soccer account that's another

968
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,480
thing that i found extremely suspect is

969
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,760
that

970
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,839
the man has gotten

971
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:20,240
for for sure a few

972
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:22,640
verifiable soccer accounts didn't he i

973
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,550
i think it was the the the one that he

974
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,000
used the most

975
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,599
by accident as lou so we know that

976
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,119
so we know that he's using stock

977
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,359
accounts i don't know that

978
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,200
the soccer cast will come and defend

979
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,359
louis elizondo but we know in at least

980
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,599
one case that it's him but our newsposts

981
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,240
are all oh

982
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:50,720
yeah defending himself on twitter you

983
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,200
know oh wow kind of games it's like what

984
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,599
are we 12 here you know like

985
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,359
i don't understand that those kind of

986
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:59,119
that's interesting well you know that's

987
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:00,079
the thing

988
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:01,839
is that the troll accounts we talked

989
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:02,720
about this

990
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:05,359
if if you say something uh questioning

991
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,079
or god forbid even outright derogatory

992
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:10,720
towards lou on twitter

993
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,440
all of these brand new accounts on

994
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,599
twitter they just joined last month

995
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,920
we'll all start arguing with you about

996
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,760
what a great guy is and how much he's

997
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:21,200
done for disclosure and you don't know

998
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:22,400
what you're talking about and i just

999
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:23,760
find it suspect

1000
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,880
that there's an army of you know like

1001
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,440
fake nameless faceless brand new twitter

1002
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:31,520
accounts that will defend him to the

1003
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:34,720
death it's weird it's strange it feels

1004
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:35,599
nice

1005
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,720
to me but you know uh or just marketing

1006
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:40,079
i mean anyone can pay for that kind of

1007
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,599
support if you want to drop two or three

1008
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,680
thousand dollars on a on some twitter

1009
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,359
bots i mean you can google it right now

1010
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,440
and find it um anyone can do that and

1011
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:48,720
the type of money that this guy's got

1012
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,800
behind him he can you know like he's

1013
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,079
clearly got money behind him or he

1014
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:54,079
wouldn't be in all of the news outlets

1015
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,280
that he is he wouldn't have the sway

1016
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,280
that he has you know um you don't have

1017
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,359
to look too far to see who it is i mean

1018
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,040
it's you know right now it's christopher

1019
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,960
mellon he's just those two guys are just

1020
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,720
like fused at the hip you know they're

1021
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,960
not going anywhere because as soon as

1022
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,599
lou and elizondo or lou and melon part

1023
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,760
ways lou no longer has the protection of

1024
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,920
melon for all of the

1025
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,520
sketchy things that he done that may be

1026
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:18,079
considered illegal in a new prosecutor's

1027
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:19,920
eyes you know what i mean like um there

1028
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,520
could be some some real serious

1029
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,520
repercussions for him you know if he

1030
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,040
conspired to

1031
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,880
declassify footage so that somebody else

1032
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:28,319
could steal it from the pentagon that

1033
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,599
sounds to me like a federal or a

1034
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:31,760
military crime if not a federal one it's

1035
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:34,319
definitely a yeah i've always had

1036
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,839
i've always had a problem i've always

1037
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:38,640
had a problem with the fact that he

1038
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:41,839
he was in charge of something and

1039
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,079
apparently he could rubber stamp the

1040
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,440
release of these videos and then he gets

1041
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,920
a television deal based on the fact that

1042
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,359
he released those videos from the

1043
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:54,079
pentagon then he gets a book deal you

1044
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,680
know he gets a job at ttsa based on you

1045
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,680
know like what gave him the authority to

1046
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:01,520
release these three videos not they

1047
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,480
shouldn't have been i don't think

1048
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,800
they're that spectacular but

1049
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:06,480
you know yeah they're not giving the

1050
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:09,440
authority to release those videos and

1051
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,760
then go profit from them for the next

1052
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,359
three or four years

1053
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,599
i i do raise that question in the film

1054
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:18,880
for sure and i show some some other i i

1055
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,280
i i dive into that detail with more

1056
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,880
enthusiasm you know i go into it pretty

1057
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,640
hard because there's that needs to be

1058
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,720
discussed because it is important you

1059
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,800
know how he left the pentagon when he

1060
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:31,280
left the pentagon and what he was doing

1061
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:33,680
for the year before that is very

1062
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,640
important because according to him he

1063
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,400
left the pentagon he had filed to get

1064
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,160
those videos declassified and then left

1065
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:42,480
the pentagon completely independent of

1066
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,520
each other had nothing to do with

1067
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:45,599
anything else and then somebody else

1068
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,200
gave those videos and leaked them he had

1069
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,520
nothing to do with that you know but

1070
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,960
they couldn't have got them if they

1071
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,720
weren't declassified but then he's gone

1072
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,240
on and said contradictory things too

1073
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,160
he's also said no they weren't leaked

1074
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,599
they were they were released in the

1075
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,599
proper form the dod gave us a proper

1076
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:01,760
authority to do this but the pentagon

1077
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:04,480
has clearly stated that's not true it

1078
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,079
would never be true because people like

1079
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,079
ttsa that are called industry partners

1080
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,920
are never allowed to release statements

1081
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,960
or information on behalf of the

1082
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,400
government only an official u.s

1083
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,240
government office can do that and a

1084
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,280
story you know so his claims have been

1085
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:19,440
refuted but it's just a matter of what

1086
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,880
people want to believe i mean do they

1087
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,880
want to continue to follow the pied

1088
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,640
piper off the pier you know who's just

1089
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:26,560
going to bolt when he gets what he wants

1090
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,440
you know

1091
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,000
maybe not maybe this is the problem

1092
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:32,240
this is the problem that i have is i you

1093
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,960
know

1094
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,640
we've only been talking for a very short

1095
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,880
time but we've already brought up all

1096
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:38,960
these issues and problems

1097
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,440
that nobody wants to talk about and and

1098
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:43,200
by the way i'm glad that you could come

1099
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,720
here and you know

1100
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,200
i get i'm a villain to some people

1101
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,960
because we we're we're here having a

1102
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,400
discussion about these things and it's

1103
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,560
an open discussion it's an honest

1104
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:54,560
discussion

1105
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,720
it feels like lou and lou's supporters

1106
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:58,560
don't want to do that they don't want to

1107
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,240
answer these questions they don't want

1108
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:01,920
to have these things addressed so we

1109
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,480
could all move forward it's just uh

1110
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,480
you're the bad guy if you bring this up

1111
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,319
so i have a feeling that you're going to

1112
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:11,119
be a new villain here manny because

1113
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,280
from what i've seen and heard

1114
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,800
i don't think that your film is going to

1115
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:17,440
cast him in a very nice light and i

1116
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:19,680
think it's going to force him maybe to

1117
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,560
answer

1118
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,720
hard questions but i love that about you

1119
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:24,720
because that's what real investigative

1120
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:27,280
journalism is you force people to have

1121
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:31,599
to answer for whatever you know

1122
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,560
yeah louis said that he's no stranger

1123
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:37,440
criticism and he has nothing to hide and

1124
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:39,280
nothing to fear from the truth so let's

1125
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:41,119
talk about some truth that's all i'm

1126
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,400
saying you know i don't want to hear

1127
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:43,920
stories about him saving a unit in

1128
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,240
afghanistan with his psychic you know

1129
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:47,760
remote viewing powers i don't want to

1130
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,960
hear other war stories about you know

1131
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,400
events and aircrafts and things that

1132
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:54,240
just don't i i'm not interested in that

1133
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,920
i'll go by the day after roswell if i

1134
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,760
want to hear that kind of stuff you know

1135
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,079
and it's far more entertaining far more

1136
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,240
articulate and it's far more well

1137
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,000
written than anything that lou comes up

1138
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:06,319
with he's not creative he's not creative

1139
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,880
at all i'm amazed at his ability to say

1140
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,119
nothing in in a two-hour interview or

1141
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,040
almost nothing or just repeat things

1142
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,000
that he's already said in yet another

1143
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,640
two hour video which i did a little bit

1144
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,359
of an analysis of some of

1145
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,359
let's say his riffs you know like the

1146
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,760
things that the stories that he tells

1147
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,760
and it appears to me that he's very

1148
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,520
scripted going on these shows and

1149
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:31,520
repeating some of the same

1150
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:34,400
sort of stories almost word for word in

1151
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:37,119
some cases it's eerie and that made me

1152
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,200
believe that this might be some sorcery

1153
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,440
up or he might be involved in some kind

1154
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,359
of disinformation campaign that's

1155
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,079
another rumor people say well first of

1156
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,520
all he is an admitted counter

1157
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,000
intelligence officer which

1158
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,000
you know so he's trained in counter

1159
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,079
intelligence and suddenly he shows up

1160
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,400
telling us all these stories can't

1161
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,160
verify a lot of things

1162
00:47:01,349 --> 00:47:00,160
the waters are all muddied and and

1163
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:01,359
unclear

1164
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:04,319
can't answer hard questions and uh and

1165
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:05,760
it just seems like it just is

1166
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:08,319
snowballing right but

1167
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,520
to what what what's his goal here

1168
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:14,319
the end game just making money i i or is

1169
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,680
it in my opinion

1170
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:17,359
it's all about money it's all about

1171
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,560
money it seems like you know and

1172
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,000
somebody said something in the chat

1173
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,400
earlier about how he's bigelow's man and

1174
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:24,000
that's really my kind of final

1175
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,240
conclusion at the end of the day is that

1176
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,160
he's currently working for bigelow to

1177
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:30,079
try to get technology declassified so

1178
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:31,280
that bigelow can use it because

1179
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,319
bigelow's upset that lockheed boeing uh

1180
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,920
you know northrop these guys have had it

1181
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,440
for all these many years and he doesn't

1182
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,960
get it you know what i'm saying and

1183
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,839
that's

1184
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,839
just my gut based upon everything that

1185
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,319
i've looked at however however and i'll

1186
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,480
mention this a lot in the film the name

1187
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:48,400
of the lockheed martin corporation comes

1188
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:50,720
up significantly in the in the history

1189
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,680
of lou going back to 2001 i believe

1190
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,880
maybe that's why people call him

1191
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:56,559
lockheed lou right

1192
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,520
well yeah and the reason that i i i

1193
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,920
think i can't prove that he ever got any

1194
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,440
kind of money or has any direct

1195
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,000
connection to lockheed martin it almost

1196
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,400
feels like he was attempting to do

1197
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,880
things to dangle um

1198
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,640
pieces in front of them like like his

1199
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,400
patents his nautical patents you look at

1200
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,839
these patents and you're like who would

1201
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:17,119
use these but a lockheed martin

1202
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,880
corporation or master no big boat

1203
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,200
building corporation or whatever and so

1204
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:23,280
i feel like he was trying to put a

1205
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,720
carrot in front of them hoping they'd

1206
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,200
bite you know but i don't think they did

1207
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,200
i think he got jaded man and when he got

1208
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,280
close to retiring into obscurity like i

1209
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,599
said with a military pension at whatever

1210
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,680
rank he was at when he was you know he

1211
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,280
was only three years away from retiring

1212
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:40,240
when he pulled this stunt and there's no

1213
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:41,680
i don't think it's

1214
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,920
you know a coincidence all the other

1215
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:45,920
moves that were in play at the same time

1216
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:47,920
you know there was you know some of some

1217
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,559
very important um

1218
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,920
things like that we got let out of the

1219
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:54,720
geopolitical life yeah go ahead

1220
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:56,079
just to be clear

1221
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:58,400
because i'm a little unclear on this

1222
00:49:03,670 --> 00:48:59,359
if he

1223
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:03,680
hitting his pension does that mean he

1224
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,000
doesn't get a pension then

1225
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,599
i think i believe he'd still get a

1226
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,440
partial pension i don't think i you know

1227
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,800
he might have to wait until those three

1228
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:12,240
years are up and then get a partial

1229
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:15,119
payment maybe three years

1230
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:19,119
yeah right i believe 25 years is that

1231
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,400
right so he quit at 23 years and he i bo

1232
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:24,240
or 22 years i believe and could have

1233
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:27,760
retired you know at 25 um but again i

1234
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,800
think it was more and you know

1235
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,319
yeah it's interesting i think it was

1236
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,800
more about the abs you know retire into

1237
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,400
obscurity and go fishing and ride my

1238
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:38,559
atvs all day or

1239
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,319
become you know ufo lou lou elizondo and

1240
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,880
so now he he just rather do that but you

1241
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,800
know when you really look at it none of

1242
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:49,200
it holds up i mean none of it there's

1243
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:50,559
nothing that he says that holds up

1244
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,440
because

1245
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,599
the source like i said in the promo is

1246
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,839
always lu himself you know and it comes

1247
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,839
back to him and his word so if you trust

1248
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:59,119
fluid his word

1249
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,000
cool

1250
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:02,720
um but somebody who i've caught in

1251
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:04,319
you know three hours worth of lies

1252
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,680
pretty much i have a hard time taking it

1253
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,839
their word unless they build trust back

1254
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:09,599
up you know like when somebody lies to

1255
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,599
you it takes a while till you trust to

1256
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:14,000
begin right like isn't that how it goes

1257
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:16,960
um but yeah yeah who doesn't care what i

1258
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:17,920
think

1259
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:19,839
some people have suggested to me you

1260
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,800
know

1261
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:22,319
some people have suggested to me like

1262
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,319
well why would he do that

1263
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,079
why would he uh quit a good government

1264
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,559
job to make money there's not that much

1265
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,480
money to you know he can't make that

1266
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:32,559
much money doing this and i'm like

1267
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,200
you go talk to like

1268
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,200
the people who run uh

1269
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,200
contact in the desert and find out what

1270
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,200
some of the people get to go to a

1271
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,520
conference and talk for two hours some

1272
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:45,280
of those people get ten

1273
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,079
fifteen thousand dollars for one

1274
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,160
conference yes one maybe it doesn't need

1275
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,920
to be a lot of money money maybe it

1276
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,359
could be just enough so that he doesn't

1277
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,960
have to go get a job at a supermarket

1278
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,720
like he likes to throw around when the

1279
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:58,400
you know government uh threatens his

1280
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,599
security clearance he's like i'm gonna

1281
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,280
have to go work at a supermarket you

1282
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,520
have to pay my bills yeah is there any

1283
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,200
proof that the government threatened his

1284
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:07,440
security clearance or is it or again are

1285
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,680
we just taking his word for it it's his

1286
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,280
words like everything else yeah we

1287
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,119
didn't see like a letter threatening him

1288
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:15,200
from the government to shut up or no and

1289
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,319
that could be

1290
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,000
he said too you know

1291
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:20,079
yeah on tmz he said it was another

1292
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,520
command an old commander of his or

1293
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,640
something that had called him up and

1294
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:24,319
said hey you know we need to talk about

1295
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:25,680
this this is crazy what are you doing

1296
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,200
come talk to me or it'll threaten your

1297
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,119
security clearance and then you know but

1298
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:30,720
this is you know lou doesn't ever just

1299
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:33,280
say the sky is blue he'll be like i went

1300
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,119
outside today and it was a meander is

1301
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:37,280
sort of a bluish greenish orangish

1302
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,640
purplish

1303
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,400
water that fell on my face and you're

1304
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,559
like lou this guy's blue just say it you

1305
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,079
know like but he doesn't you know like

1306
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,359
you just rubber

1307
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:47,920
anyways you know you know how he talks

1308
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:48,800
yeah

1309
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,800
do you think that do you think that the

1310
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,880
tides some people have suggested that

1311
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:54,960
the tides for him are turning and that a

1312
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,280
lot less people are going to just even

1313
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,119
ufo believers are going to just be on

1314
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:01,680
his side and believe him because

1315
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:03,520
more and more things are not adding up

1316
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,400
with him and and uh

1317
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,839
yeah what do you think do you think that

1318
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,520
is going to be harder for him going

1319
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,040
forward or is he just going to keep

1320
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,359
rolling on with uh

1321
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,599
i would encourage people to go out and

1322
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:17,520
do their own independent research you

1323
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,599
know if you really care then go and do

1324
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,520
your own independent research you know

1325
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,760
and figure it out for yourself you know

1326
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,559
um

1327
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,240
the reason i put the video together the

1328
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,000
way that i did was so that people could

1329
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,079
see the research that i do i have done

1330
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,000
because i do care enough to figure this

1331
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,319
stuff out i do care about it and i want

1332
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,920
to be educated when i speak and i want

1333
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,280
to make sure that if i say something

1334
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,359
about the guy that it's true to the best

1335
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,280
of my research and knowledge which is

1336
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,520
substantial you know i've done the

1337
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:45,040
legwork and i stand behind everything

1338
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,720
that i've said and if people want to

1339
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,400
argue with me that's fine but i'd like

1340
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,480
some some proof not arguments and

1341
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:52,559
opinions you know like you can you might

1342
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,520
not

1343
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:55,599
you know i i want some proof show me

1344
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,400
something

1345
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:58,160
some people are big on that and you know

1346
00:53:02,950 --> 00:52:59,760
i have a little bit of a pet peeve

1347
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:02,960
lately a new pet peeve is we had this

1348
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:04,720
this let's just call it a disagreement

1349
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:07,040
with another show host and they said you

1350
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,000
can't do this and then we provided

1351
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:12,319
screenshots of people doing that thing

1352
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:13,200
we

1353
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,760
videos of people doing exactly what they

1354
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:19,280
said nobody could do except the

1355
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,640
government then we got two on the record

1356
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:25,040
google employees to say that we were

1357
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,280
right and they were wrong about what the

1358
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:29,440
disagreement is about but they're still

1359
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,280
going to argue with me and they have

1360
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,280
nothing but opinion they have no

1361
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:35,760
evidence to counter our evidence so i'm

1362
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:37,760
with you manny if some at some point you

1363
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,480
say

1364
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:40,880
here's my evidence where's yours

1365
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:43,599
to counter this prove me wrong with more

1366
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:46,400
than words and most people won't do that

1367
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:48,079
and that's unfortunate you know yeah

1368
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,200
then we just write them off you know

1369
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,720
like and i hate to say that because you

1370
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:52,079
know a lot of these

1371
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:53,520
a lot of people i want to reach are

1372
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:55,359
these hardcore lou followers i want to

1373
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,960
tell them like hey guys you're being

1374
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,280
manipulated you're being led astray

1375
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,400
you're being used you're being used by a

1376
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:05,040
guy so that he can get some money or so

1377
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:06,319
that he doesn't have to get a job at a

1378
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,520
supermarket or whatever i don't know

1379
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:09,440
what his intentions are i used to have a

1380
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:11,040
mind reading cap but i sold it for a

1381
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,319
beer you know a long time ago so

1382
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,160
we'll never know you know like the guy

1383
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,079
won't yeah and and the other the other

1384
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,079
thing i i want to make sure that i

1385
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:22,319
express to you is that i have tremendous

1386
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,559
respect that you just said i'm gonna put

1387
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,400
it all in the film i don't wanna argue

1388
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:28,640
with people on twitter anymore i'ma have

1389
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,040
one link with three hours of evidence

1390
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,839
and you you know come back to me that's

1391
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,480
a great idea first of all and it's also

1392
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,880
inspiring to me because i would sure

1393
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,559
like to get into making documentaries

1394
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,720
always wanted to do it and

1395
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:44,480
you know when i see somebody else doing

1396
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,599
it i go

1397
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:47,680
wealthy if he can pull this off no

1398
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,960
offense

1399
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,480
you know what i mean though it's great

1400
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:52,000
when you have a friend that did it you

1401
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,720
go

1402
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,559
you know and maybe you can pick i can

1403
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,640
pick your brain about some things oh

1404
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,920
yeah man

1405
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:00,000
it's not an easy process all that

1406
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,079
editing and all that you know

1407
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,839
i can't explain that and i and i'm glad

1408
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:05,040
you brought that up because i wanted to

1409
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,640
tell people this you know like this has

1410
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,400
been a project that's really been in the

1411
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:10,880
work for years it's been in the work

1412
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:13,760
since lou stepped on stage with ttsa

1413
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:16,400
i've been watching him and and and the

1414
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,319
very first video that i put out about

1415
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,640
that guy i said i think i said

1416
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:22,559
i don't think we can trust lou as far as

1417
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,680
i can throw him and he looks like a

1418
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,520
husky boy so i couldn't pitch him very

1419
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:27,839
far you know and i think that's true

1420
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,799
like i stand by that

1421
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:33,200
man the guy's built like a brick house

1422
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:34,480
you know like

1423
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,040
that i hate lou i don't hate lou i don't

1424
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,359
hate lou i don't know lou he seems like

1425
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,520
a really charismatic nice guy i'd

1426
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:47,680
probably love having a beer and a slice

1427
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,119
of pizza with them and bullshitting and

1428
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,599
listen to all his stories like be fun

1429
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,200
you know it's not about that but it is

1430
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:54,880
about something that's important in this

1431
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:57,760
field and that's truth when did we lose

1432
00:56:01,430 --> 00:56:00,079
sight of that it's about the truth it's

1433
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:01,440
not about stories or what you can

1434
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,520
manipulate the people to believe or what

1435
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:06,000
you can you can argue someone into

1436
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,559
believing it's about the damn truth

1437
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:10,880
and you know that's what this is there's

1438
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,839
some hardcore truth here based on fact

1439
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:15,200
not opinion

1440
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,640
fact so

1441
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,799
i hope people want to really want that

1442
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,480
if you're a hardcore lou fan don't watch

1443
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,240
my movie it'll piss you off because i'm

1444
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,839
going to prove to you and you're going

1445
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,920
to have some kind of

1446
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:27,359
cognitive dissonance there's going to be

1447
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:28,720
a conflict in you because i'm going to

1448
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:29,920
prove i'm going to provide you with

1449
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:31,680
evidence that that guy is not you can't

1450
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,839
trust him for anything that he says the

1451
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:35,359
question is will you believe it or are

1452
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:36,480
you going to continue believing that the

1453
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:38,559
world is flat it's up to you

1454
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:39,920
you know

1455
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:42,319
yeah and you mentioned his his

1456
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,520
connections or seeming involvement with

1457
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,760
with lockheed which is interesting

1458
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,960
because

1459
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:50,799
you know i've got my own theories about

1460
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,200
what some of these so-called ufos are

1461
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,359
and in my theory states that they are

1462
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:56,880
advanced

1463
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,119
aircraft that are ours

1464
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:01,920
and uh who would be producing those

1465
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:04,400
aircraft would be lockheed and even one

1466
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:06,000
of the drone

1467
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:07,359
bases

1468
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:09,920
right where one of these films was made

1469
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:12,640
miles mere miles from it is a lockheed

1470
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,920
installation

1471
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:15,280
and

1472
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:17,920
many people have uh sort of theorized

1473
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:20,400
that lou's role is to

1474
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:23,680
fill the space with disinformation

1475
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,920
tell people no these are aliens they

1476
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:28,079
must be aliens and people make

1477
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:30,160
hyperbolic statements like

1478
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,280
this did

1479
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,520
um you know this made right angle turns

1480
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,880
we have nothing that can make right

1481
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:37,200
angle turns any drone you buy it walmart

1482
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:39,680
can make a right angle turn you know

1483
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:42,880
this so there seems to be a theory

1484
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,440
that he may be out there to take the

1485
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:48,000
heat off of these drone top secret drone

1486
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:49,599
projects that the government doesn't

1487
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:50,799
want people

1488
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,950
what do you think of that theory

1489
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:58,640
i definitely tend to agree with you and

1490
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,000
i i the nimitz uh ufo footage i believe

1491
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,400
was one of our probably a lockheed piece

1492
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,240
that was filmed and here's something

1493
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,559
else that i discovered

1494
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,960
actually while researching who's lou is

1495
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,799
that uh

1496
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,559
aguadilla puerto rico right next to

1497
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:16,240
rafael hernandez airport where the

1498
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:19,040
aguadilla ufo was spotted there's a

1499
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,640
hotel that's down

1500
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:22,480
shore a few miles it's actually the

1501
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,799
hotel where mick west thought that the

1502
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:26,319
you know chinese paper lanterns that he

1503
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,680
thought were

1504
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,440
you know the agudia ufo were launched

1505
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,359
from but less than a quarter mile away

1506
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,000
from that hotel behind it is a massive

1507
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,400
lockheed martin office and i said what

1508
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,760
the hell what are the odds that those

1509
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,680
guys might have been flying something

1510
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:40,960
out that day and didn't know that there

1511
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,119
was a cbp plane up there that that

1512
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,680
tracked him and caught him you know um

1513
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,760
and maybe that maybe that is what

1514
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:49,280
happens you know like maybe the nimitz

1515
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,960
was maybe lockheed was out there flying

1516
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,640
it because i've heard statements from

1517
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,680
people that

1518
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,119
you know at least i think it was the

1519
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,480
princeton was sent out there to um to

1520
00:59:01,430 --> 00:59:00,240
find this thing you know like they went

1521
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,440
out there looking for this thing because

1522
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,200
it crossed their path and who would fly

1523
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,520
something over the staging area where

1524
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:07,599
our pacific fleet always goes like if

1525
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,960
you're going to try to

1526
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,400
the only reason you would do that is to

1527
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:12,400
see how our military responds to an

1528
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,280
unknown intruder right like you know or

1529
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:17,359
do you want to or what if what if they

1530
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,920
wanted to test the capabilities of their

1531
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:22,079
i think they did i think that they did

1532
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:24,160
against others let's see what happens

1533
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,520
you know let's see if they can catch it

1534
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,960
let's see if they can keep up with it

1535
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:28,559
let's see if you know

1536
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,200
what they perceive it to be even because

1537
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,359
that might tell them something about

1538
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,280
what our adversaries would do when

1539
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:37,280
encountering one of these top secret

1540
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,799
areas perfect

1541
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,559
test our own fort in fact i know that

1542
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:42,240
they do that because it was td barnes

1543
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,599
who said that they used to do it out at

1544
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:45,839
area 51 you know that they would fly the

1545
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,160
sr-71 over there or some of their other

1546
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:49,920
test planes or that they would take it

1547
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:51,920
over another air force location and they

1548
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:53,920
would have a uh you know like an air

1549
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,920
force radar technician on the ground who

1550
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:57,040
would be like hey something's going to

1551
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,200
fly over if you catch anything of it

1552
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:01,839
send the intel here but if you don't

1553
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:03,760
cool because you're not supposed to so

1554
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:05,280
they do that stuff and they've always

1555
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,799
done that stuff you know and it wouldn't

1556
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,400
surprise me if they were doing that out

1557
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,559
there either to test the

1558
01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:12,240
you know the next generation drone or

1559
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:13,839
whatever they're testing or to be

1560
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:15,440
testing our next generation radars they

1561
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,799
might be testing both they might be

1562
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,240
testing foreign response they might be

1563
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,920
testing to see what shows up on

1564
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,599
satellite while they're doing that you

1565
01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:23,680
know but the question is was it

1566
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:25,680
legitimate tests or are these people

1567
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,240
that have this technology using it

1568
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,160
without the military knowing it kind of

1569
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:32,079
worries me that that type of technology

1570
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:34,319
is in the hands of private citizens you

1571
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,640
know like who don't have an oath yeah

1572
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,480
and have imported

1573
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:40,559
they got their own air force apparently

1574
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,119
that could smoke ours which is scary you

1575
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,520
know right i mean if that yeah yeah

1576
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,960
that's scary

1577
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,319
is here in the live chat and that's a

1578
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,680
very good question we were gonna i was

1579
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,200
gonna get to that but can you tell

1580
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:53,280
people when your film is gonna be

1581
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:54,799
finished and where people will be able

1582
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:56,400
to find it

1583
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:59,920
youtube channel um

1584
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:01,520
unless i have some problems on youtube

1585
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,079
with it which you know i might uh it

1586
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:06,160
will also be on my odyssey backup

1587
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:07,280
channel

1588
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:09,920
as well and i do plan to have a uh a web

1589
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:11,920
page dedicated to it which i will uh put

1590
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:14,160
the movie on the web page along with uh

1591
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:15,599
some documents from the movies so that

1592
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,960
people can go and look at the documents

1593
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:19,119
without having to pause the the film and

1594
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,880
look at the screen you can just go look

1595
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,319
at the dang documents on the webpage and

1596
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:24,480
pull them up and see them uh along with

1597
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,960
the links of where i found them you know

1598
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:28,400
so you can go and find them yourself

1599
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,319
like if you think i'm i've made them up

1600
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,240
or faked them like they're out there so

1601
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:34,160
um you know i'm really this is a

1602
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:35,680
research video and it is and there's

1603
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:38,079
gonna be a lot of research in it um you

1604
01:01:42,069 --> 01:01:40,240
know and i really do you know if lou's

1605
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,079
watching this man please get a hold of

1606
01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:44,160
me it'll be a civil interview but

1607
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:45,680
there's some stuff i would really rather

1608
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:48,640
not put out if you can exclude it and

1609
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,920
i'd like to ask you some of this stuff

1610
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:51,119
but there are going to be some hard

1611
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:52,400
questions so

1612
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,280
um

1613
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,960
you know tit for tat it's not going to

1614
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,119
be it's not going to be one of those

1615
01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:59,520
walk over interviews um but i hope you

1616
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:01,760
guys are not going to do a ufo circle

1617
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:04,160
jerk you know how much i love those

1618
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:05,599
you know the thing is wouldn't even ask

1619
01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:07,039
him about universe

1620
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:08,559
i wouldn't i wouldn't ask him about ufos

1621
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:10,079
i'm more interested in who's lou his

1622
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:11,599
personal life you know i want to know

1623
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:13,200
when he met his wife i want to know like

1624
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:14,720
he says he has two kids who are they

1625
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,799
like oh is he a good father is he a cool

1626
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:18,799
guy like is he cool to hang out with or

1627
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:20,720
do his friends think he's a jerk i want

1628
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,400
to know um you know there i have a lot

1629
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,640
of really tough questions for lou like

1630
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:25,920
lou

1631
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:27,839
when did your business never ship empty

1632
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:31,200
get incorporated and in what state

1633
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:33,599
what a deal breaker what a hard question

1634
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:36,000
to ask a man like i should be ignored

1635
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,440
for wanting to know when his business

1636
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:39,520
was started give me a break like

1637
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:41,599
i'm not going to ask the guy about his

1638
01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:43,680
work at guantanamo bay because for one i

1639
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:45,200
wouldn't believe a word he said and

1640
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:46,480
there's plenty of footage of him out

1641
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:48,240
there saying that i'd ask him about real

1642
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,599
stuff that he has no reason not to

1643
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,119
answer and he probably wouldn't want to

1644
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:53,119
answer it you know so

1645
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:54,799
i mean what are you going to say i mean

1646
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:55,920
i'll just put it out there if he ever

1647
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:57,680
wants to respond to it he can make a you

1648
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:00,079
know fu video manny a response video or

1649
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,720
whatever go ahead yeah

1650
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:03,920
i don't care

1651
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:06,400
some people have gone a lot further in

1652
01:03:11,109 --> 01:03:08,799
their uh sort of assertions about we

1653
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:11,119
have kate schneider in the live chat uh

1654
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:12,720
that that's a dark journalist's

1655
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:16,400
girlfriend and she says uh dark

1656
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:17,760
journalist was just showing me an

1657
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,440
interview lou did the other day on a

1658
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,280
smaller channel and he was lamenting

1659
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:23,280
about his haters

1660
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,559
but it's interesting that dark

1661
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:26,000
journalist is going

1662
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:28,400
calling him a cia disinformation agent

1663
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:30,720
from the very beginning from the very

1664
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,760
start

1665
01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:33,839
uh so interesting if that turns out to

1666
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:36,079
be the case uh maybe i want that game

1667
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,000
that i thought that at one at one point

1668
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:40,400
i got it right and he's been right

1669
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:41,839
because he is

1670
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:44,640
dark journalist is convinced that this

1671
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:47,599
is a cia psyop and all that it might be

1672
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,599
it might be you know td barnes also

1673
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:51,200
talked about the aurora project and

1674
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:53,599
about how that was just a big con to get

1675
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,720
more money to build the uh b2 spirit you

1676
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:58,000
know it was basically the central

1677
01:04:02,069 --> 01:03:59,520
intelligence agency in the defense

1678
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:02,079
industry creating this hoax project to

1679
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,680
get more funding from congress to finish

1680
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:05,839
the b2 which would run over

1681
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:08,000
budget and you know time allotment and

1682
01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:09,680
all that so i wouldn't surprise me if

1683
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:11,520
this is something similar to that um

1684
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:14,160
dark journalists might look into

1685
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,920
god talk to me man i want to talk to you

1686
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:17,280
off the record definitely off camera

1687
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,480
sometime

1688
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,440
but uh

1689
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:21,280
yeah maybe maybe i'll go reach out to

1690
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:22,480
him now and then

1691
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:24,079
we should try to get him to come and do

1692
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:26,559
an interview here as well uh you know i

1693
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,720
think yeah with him in these talks he

1694
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:30,480
does with joseph pharrell and a few

1695
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:33,359
other people that i like whose books i i

1696
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:34,319
enjoy

1697
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:37,280
uh good show uh so

1698
01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:38,960
when do you think that the film will be

1699
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,079
finished and available for everybody

1700
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,559
um it really depends i've got uh one

1701
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:46,240
more interview a phone interview

1702
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:47,680
scheduled for tomorrow and then i'm

1703
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:49,039
really just waiting back to hear from

1704
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:50,480
lou and that's why i've been kind of

1705
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:52,160
publicly pressuring him like hey man

1706
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:53,440
like

1707
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:54,799
i kind of want to tell your side of the

1708
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,559
story this story is who's lou how can i

1709
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:58,319
tell it without his side of the story

1710
01:05:02,069 --> 01:04:59,839
but he won't give it to me so all i got

1711
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:02,079
is his his stinking web page which has

1712
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:04,319
got about as much truth in it as a you

1713
01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:05,280
know uh

1714
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:06,799
i don't know a camel soup ad or

1715
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:09,520
something i don't know you know

1716
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,400
but what can i do um if he doesn't get

1717
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:13,839
back to me i'll release it in the next

1718
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:15,760
few weeks once i get the web page ready

1719
01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:18,319
and get the final touches put on it

1720
01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:19,680
but

1721
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:21,520
you know what can i do i can't wait

1722
01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:23,599
forever lou so you don't get touched

1723
01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,799
with me i'm just going to put it out i

1724
01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:26,559
don't want to hear him or his sock

1725
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:28,880
puppets or anybody else crying about it

1726
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:31,760
later i didn't get a chance to speak his

1727
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,920
mind man like you can't just ignore

1728
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,440
people and be like oh i don't have to

1729
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,440
answer you well fine after this movie

1730
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,960
comes out maybe i'll just ignore lou

1731
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:40,559
i'll just be like you know what i'm

1732
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:43,039
beyond you mad i'm over giving you a

1733
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:44,559
chance to speak your point of view i'm

1734
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:46,480
just gonna publish my information and

1735
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:47,920
you can pucker up and kiss me where the

1736
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:49,520
sun don't shine

1737
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,559
you know but i don't know whatever

1738
01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:54,319
so do you think you think it's going to

1739
01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,799
be you you're going to give a release

1740
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:58,400
date in the next couple of weeks though

1741
01:06:02,470 --> 01:06:00,960
or yeah maybe two to three weeks

1742
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,480
maybe two to three weeks okay so we'll

1743
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:04,319
get the full film in two to three weeks

1744
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:06,400
maybe we could have a watch party here

1745
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:08,480
yeah get the popcorn ready anybody can

1746
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,880
watch it ready manny yeah in fact i say

1747
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:12,559
in the movie i say share this movie in

1748
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:14,079
its entirety go ahead anywhere that

1749
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:15,359
people want to share it go ahead i don't

1750
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:17,039
care i paid for it out of my pocket i

1751
01:06:21,510 --> 01:06:19,359
paid for all of the research costs i

1752
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:21,520
paid for the web hosting i paid for it

1753
01:06:25,270 --> 01:06:24,000
um you know the subscriptions for the

1754
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:25,280
different sites to get the the

1755
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:27,119
information that i needed it's all paid

1756
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:28,480
for my b and

1757
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:30,799
i don't care use it take it you know i

1758
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:32,400
prefer people to leave it intact you

1759
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:33,760
know but whatever if you want to cut it

1760
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:35,119
apart tell me what a jerk i am you could

1761
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:37,520
do that too i don't copyright strike

1762
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:39,440
people and i don't have anything to hide

1763
01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:41,280
i don't care you know like let's talk

1764
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:42,559
about it that's what i want is a

1765
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:44,240
dialogue i want to talk about these

1766
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,319
questions there's legitimate questions

1767
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:48,960
in this film about louis elizondo his

1768
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,039
history and his statements and if he

1769
01:06:54,309 --> 01:06:52,640
wants to ignore him fine

1770
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,319
that'll just leave it up to us to figure

1771
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:56,640
out who's lou

1772
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,319
well thank you ash dobbs for kindly

1773
01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:00,160
generous five dollar super chat saying

1774
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,599
great show thank you for your kindness

1775
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:03,440
your generosity and your support of the

1776
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:05,119
show we appreciate a viewer supported

1777
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,480
show here

1778
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:08,160
and v brought up a good point you want

1779
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:10,079
to interview someone step one don't call

1780
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:11,760
them names and make wild baseless

1781
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:13,839
accusations across the interwebs i don't

1782
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,119
think anybody's making baseless

1783
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,920
accusations but we are raising important

1784
01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:20,400
questions uh but i don't know yeah she's

1785
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:22,160
directing that to me

1786
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:23,920
i'm sure that i've never been pretty

1787
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,799
vocal

1788
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:26,400
that's fine yeah i've said some i've

1789
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,680
called him a bullshitter he is a

1790
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:29,520
bullshitter that's my opinion i thought

1791
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:31,520
you know and if you go i'm glad you

1792
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:33,280
brought that up v because when lou first

1793
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:35,680
came out i was very civil to him and

1794
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:37,359
tried to communicate with him and was

1795
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:39,280
ignored i would ask hard questions i

1796
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,760
wouldn't pretend to sugarcoat them i

1797
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,440
tried sarcasm with lou i created a

1798
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:45,440
character called tommy the troll to try

1799
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:47,359
to get him to respond he wouldn't

1800
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:49,920
respond so let's try some facts you know

1801
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:50,640
i

1802
01:07:57,750 --> 01:07:56,000
don't care he can say what he wants

1803
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:57,760
you've said wouldn't you prefer that you

1804
01:08:00,789 --> 01:08:00,000
get the interview absolutely it i want

1805
01:08:01,510 --> 01:08:00,799
to hear

1806
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,520
you but

1807
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:02,880
just so we're sure that you're going to

1808
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:06,160
be fair will you let him watch that what

1809
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:07,119
you got

1810
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:09,359
first and take notes or do or keep a

1811
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,880
copy if louis or something

1812
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,400
if he wants to sit down with me and

1813
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:15,760
watch the whole thing i'll stop it

1814
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:17,279
anytime he wants so he can make a

1815
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:19,279
comment and i'll put it in the film i'll

1816
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:21,920
put it right in there

1817
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,600
i won't even censor it i'm about the

1818
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,520
damn truth man what he's the one who

1819
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:27,440
wants to manipulate everything he's the

1820
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:28,719
one who wants to pretend that he's

1821
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:30,000
someone that he's not he's the one who

1822
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:31,520
wants to portray himself as a

1823
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,400
whistleblower and a ufo hunter and a

1824
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:36,960
super soldier i'm a guy from portland

1825
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:39,279
who sees through [\h__\h] that's all i

1826
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:41,359
am i don't care i'm not a big youtuber

1827
01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:43,600
i'm not a celebrity i'm not one of these

1828
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:45,759
people i'm just a guy like you like

1829
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:47,839
everybody who's watching this i'm a guy

1830
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:48,880
who's done

1831
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:51,040
months of research on this if you want

1832
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:54,640
to see what i got watch it if you don't

1833
01:08:58,870 --> 01:08:57,199
don't it's just that simple

1834
01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:58,880
no i for one i'm glad that you did it

1835
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:01,520
because then a lot of this because

1836
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:03,279
a lot of the information they have is

1837
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:05,520
sort of stuff you know inconsistencies

1838
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:07,679
that have been adding up over the years

1839
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:10,080
and and this little point that's

1840
01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:11,920
important that people miss and this

1841
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:13,440
point that's important that people miss

1842
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,319
about mr elizondo but i i for what i'm

1843
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:17,920
happy that you're gonna it's all gonna

1844
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:19,920
be jammed into one thing here and

1845
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,159
there's going to be a definitive

1846
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:24,400
sort of resource for people that do have

1847
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:26,480
important questions right i have yeah i

1848
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:28,159
have been watching him and his story and

1849
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:29,679
collecting information for years so i

1850
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:32,000
have a bunch of information and i don't

1851
01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:33,839
know that i have anything that don't

1852
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,600
know you know that somebody else hasn't

1853
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:37,120
already found out there but i do have a

1854
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:38,560
lot of stuff that i haven't seen

1855
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:40,560
anywhere else so that's all i can say

1856
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,440
about it you know i don't want to give

1857
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,759
away too much and i and honestly you

1858
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:45,679
know it it's it's all in there but it's

1859
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,159
still just a set of facts and it's still

1860
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:50,719
subject to interpretation but what do

1861
01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:52,159
you do when you ask these questions and

1862
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,600
you present these hard you know these

1863
01:09:57,910 --> 01:09:55,760
concrete evidence and people ignore you

1864
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:57,920
i mean you gotta at some point move on

1865
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,440
and say well we have to judge them even

1866
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:01,199
though we don't want to you know like

1867
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,640
i'd rather hear his side of the story

1868
01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:04,560
and hear what he has to say but i want

1869
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:06,159
to see some additional evidence to back

1870
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:07,840
up his story too you know because the

1871
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:09,760
guy has been found in in many different

1872
01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:12,239
contradictions that would in my opinion

1873
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,159
he doesn't have any credibility you know

1874
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:15,760
if he told me this guy was blue i'd walk

1875
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:18,159
outside to check you know

1876
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:20,320
what can i say

1877
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:22,800
yeah i mean i mean and and my side of it

1878
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:24,719
is that he

1879
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,920
outwardly

1880
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:27,840
if you just trust everything he says

1881
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,440
about his background he appears to be

1882
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,199
credible but then when we start getting

1883
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,120
these problems like

1884
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:35,440
him giving inaccurate information to

1885
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:37,520
reporters in the form of like he was the

1886
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:38,880
source of this

1887
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,440
new york times original article and he

1888
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,280
gave them completely and totally

1889
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,440
inaccurate information saying that his

1890
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,520
his program had 23 million dollars in

1891
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:49,360
funding or whatever it was and that

1892
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:51,760
turns out that wasn't the case saying

1893
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:53,360
that he ran the program the pentagon

1894
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:55,520
later said no he didn't then maybe he

1895
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:57,760
did senator reid said he did

1896
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:58,880
and you know

1897
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,960
all this gets confusing real fast and

1898
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:02,480
i've often wondered if this was just a

1899
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,120
personal project of his and and harry

1900
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,960
reid and a few other people you know

1901
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,040
like well let's let's create a program

1902
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,960
and use our influence to get some

1903
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:12,400
information and

1904
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:14,719
but we it's interesting

1905
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:17,199
there's no papers there's no papers in

1906
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,440
other words if he's investigating all

1907
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:21,120
these ufo reports and doing all this

1908
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,199
stuff where's all the reports where's

1909
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:25,280
the papers what do we get for the 23

1910
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,199
million but wait that wasn't his 23

1911
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:29,280
million that was somebody else's 23

1912
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:31,040
million so here we go with the confusion

1913
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:34,239
again but i i can't find a report a

1914
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,120
piece of paper uh you know something

1915
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:38,880
that he did

1916
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:41,280
studying ufos for the years that he

1917
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:43,199
claims that he was doing that and that's

1918
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,040
just not how the government works there

1919
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:47,360
would be papers there'd be a paper trail

1920
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:48,560
behind him

1921
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,520
i would think a mile long but uh yeah

1922
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:53,679
greenwald has tried to find information

1923
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:56,400
and come up real short and me and

1924
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,719
um i know i've got one piece in here

1925
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:00,159
that i'm gonna show in the film that

1926
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:02,560
that shows it's about a tip and it does

1927
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:05,440
show that a tip had fender had funding

1928
01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:06,320
from

1929
01:12:11,669 --> 01:12:08,719
2009

1930
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:11,679
through 2010 with provisional or

1931
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:13,440
whatever funding so there was a little

1932
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:14,800
bit of money but it doesn't show how

1933
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:17,199
much it was but it

1934
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:19,520
it does show that there was a program at

1935
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,080
least through that time frame um and it

1936
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:23,840
does list elizondo working there

1937
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,480
actually as well as hal put off from

1938
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:29,199
bigelow uh advanced aerospace scientific

1939
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,400
studies

1940
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,159
any time there's any time there's a

1941
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,560
program with government money put off is

1942
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:36,560
right there we're gonna stand down he is

1943
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,080
so he's right there with his hand out

1944
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:41,280
for government money i did find him

1945
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,000
yeah

1946
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:44,320
i found one piece that showed that there

1947
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:46,800
was only a single bid on the contract

1948
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:49,280
for atip and it came from bass so the 22

1949
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:50,400
million

1950
01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:52,400
did i don't think it came from a tip i

1951
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,320
think it actually came from awesapp

1952
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:56,080
and it was but it was applied towards

1953
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:58,800
atip and they did they did have

1954
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:01,120
approximately 10 or 12 reports that they

1955
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:04,080
put out um it was about that's where if

1956
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:05,440
you remember there was a little blip on

1957
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:06,880
the radar in the media about it and it

1958
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,040
was the traversable wormholes and

1959
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:11,600
cloaking devices that the us military

1960
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,320
was studying um yeah those were the this

1961
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:15,760
was the

1962
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,560
this

1963
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:18,640
that was part of the crackpot research

1964
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:20,239
and i'll call it crackpot research i

1965
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,920
don't care what anybody says i think

1966
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:23,120
that was called

1967
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:25,199
eric davis that was eric davis involved

1968
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:26,480
with that as well

1969
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,480
yeah and they were kicking that from uh

1970
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,480
a tip or awsap to bass you know that was

1971
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,480
just terry reed scratching bigelow's

1972
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:34,640
back who's a who was a contributor his

1973
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,840
you know their buddies they lived in

1974
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,080
vegas together blah blah blah um

1975
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:40,560
whatever um yeah a lot of people said

1976
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:42,400
that that's a no i want to talk about

1977
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:43,679
harry reid

1978
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:45,840
it was a sweetheart deal though for sure

1979
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:48,400
for somebody that oh nobody else got the

1980
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:51,199
bid nobody else even yeah

1981
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:52,640
you could bid

1982
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:54,719
right maybe mufon would have bid or some

1983
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:57,280
other ufo organization would have been

1984
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,560
to do that for the money but yeah nobody

1985
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:02,000
there is no

1986
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,520
exception

1987
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,760
yeah so no big contracts are kind of

1988
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,440
sketchy always you know because you

1989
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:10,000
could charge 25 000 for a hammer and

1990
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,199
there's no one there to bid on you to

1991
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:13,600
compete you know

1992
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,600
yeah it's exactly why they do it it's no

1993
01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,360
strange game you know and that's why i

1994
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,280
say you know like it's not that's not a

1995
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:20,560
game that lou would play that's the game

1996
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,679
that somebody else plays that's above

1997
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:23,679
his pay grade the guy's not you know

1998
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:25,040
he's not that

1999
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,880
you know i thought like dark journalists

2000
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:28,800
i went through the cia bit at one point

2001
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:31,920
and it and you know i was seriously like

2002
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:34,000
i had backed up all my files on dropbox

2003
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,040
i was like man someone's going to come

2004
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,440
in and take me out like this is not good

2005
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:38,960
you know i need to get some public

2006
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:40,239
exposure

2007
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,679
and then i woke up one morning i was

2008
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:43,040
like you're a freaking [\h__\h] man there's

2009
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:44,640
some pieces that i that i saw and i was

2010
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,920
like no

2011
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:47,920
lou wants to be but he's not

2012
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:51,040
you know he he does so um

2013
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:53,440
yeah but paranoia is part of conspiracy

2014
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:54,320
land

2015
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,640
you know what's so funny i i have this

2016
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:58,000
cabin in the middle of nowhere in the

2017
01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:00,159
woods and there's a dirt road leading to

2018
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,159
it and i kept seeing and and it's a

2019
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:04,080
freeway like it'll go to another dirt

2020
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,239
road at the end of the road that you can

2021
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:08,560
turn right or left on but i kept seeing

2022
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,159
these dark this dark suv with tinted out

2023
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,400
windows and everything and i couldn't

2024
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:15,920
catch the plate every time i would see

2025
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:17,040
it it would

2026
01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:19,040
go down the dirt i was convinced i was

2027
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,800
like there's fence my neighbors were

2028
01:15:23,830 --> 01:15:22,000
convinced

2029
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:23,840
feds are watching you for some reason

2030
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:24,800
steve

2031
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,000
that there's a

2032
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:27,760
freaking they got to be fbi or something

2033
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:29,520
look at this suv we were a bunch of us

2034
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:31,840
were convinced it was feds no my

2035
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:33,520
neighbor down the road got a brand new

2036
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:36,480
suv black suv

2037
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:38,320
so but for like two months we kept

2038
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:41,600
seeing it going to [\h__\h] fence again

2039
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,440
you know who is it what are they doing

2040
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:45,840
here in the middle of nowhere how do

2041
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,679
they find me yeah that's all [\h__\h]

2042
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:49,280
well that's paranoid that's funny you

2043
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,960
know you bring that up and that reminds

2044
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:52,560
me of an article that one of the first

2045
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:54,159
articles about lou that i found because

2046
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:56,080
when i started this this research i went

2047
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:58,320
back to google and and started to find

2048
01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:59,440
the first time that lou had ever been

2049
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:01,520
mentioned and went in reverse order you

2050
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,760
know from uh you know chronologically

2051
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:05,600
but one of the old articles one of the

2052
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,280
first journalists that he tried to kind

2053
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:09,280
of solicit with this ttsa story with all

2054
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:12,400
the the footage and whatnot um basically

2055
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:14,320
was like they said you know when i first

2056
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:15,840
left the interview i was like holy crap

2057
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:18,080
what is this guy what am i in you know

2058
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:19,679
and then they said like at the you know

2059
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:21,440
on the subway home i realized this guy

2060
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:23,280
was completely full of it you know like

2061
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:25,360
he was sitting back from the corner

2062
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,880
pretending like there might be someone

2063
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,800
walking in the door to shoot him or you

2064
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,400
know like he had this weird it was like

2065
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:32,400
it was this weird conspiratorial man

2066
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,560
with the billy goat goatee the article

2067
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,480
was just amazing i was like wow this guy

2068
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:38,560
saw right through him and

2069
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:40,320
what was interesting is that was you

2070
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:41,440
know right at the beginning of lou

2071
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:43,520
coming out so you know like it seems

2072
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,800
like he just shopped around until they

2073
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:46,400
found reporters you know like you know

2074
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:48,000
knapp was there from day one but the

2075
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:51,840
media is the key to leslie key yeah

2076
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,000
is into some wacky stuff and she has

2077
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:56,719
straight covered absolute proof now

2078
01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:59,600
proven and provable hoaxes as real and

2079
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,080
genuine in the past so i i don't really

2080
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:04,320
have much trust for her she's of course

2081
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,960
would be friendly to any narrative that

2082
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:08,560
he was telling her

2083
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,679
and that's that explains a lot yeah yeah

2084
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:13,600
yeah she's a lot of wild stuff and

2085
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:15,440
hoaxes she's covered and things like

2086
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:16,800
that

2087
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:20,640
where they're going to be able to see

2088
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:21,920
your new film it's going to be on the

2089
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:24,880
area 503 youtube channel that's where

2090
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:26,800
he'll be hosting it there due out in two

2091
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:28,400
to three weeks check his youtube channel

2092
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:30,719
area 503 i'm going to find that and put

2093
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:32,880
it in the live chat you should also go

2094
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:34,480
over there and subscribe to him because

2095
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,320
he's doing some excellent work besides

2096
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:38,239
this over there and if you like my

2097
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:39,760
channel you would probably like his

2098
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,679
because manny's kind of a no [\h__\h]

2099
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:43,600
guy too

2100
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,679
right and i love it there needs to be

2101
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:47,280
more of us right

2102
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,760
yeah for sure about you know like and

2103
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:51,040
you know we just got to call it how we

2104
01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:52,320
see it man you know and that's what we

2105
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,840
both do you know we look at things and

2106
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:55,520
you're like hey man this is how i see it

2107
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:56,960
that i write you know

2108
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:58,000
that's all we can do with the

2109
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,760
information that we have you know and

2110
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:01,199
i've got all the information that i've

2111
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:02,800
got that i can collect pretty much on

2112
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:04,480
lou right now unless he wants to give me

2113
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:06,320
some more you know that's where i'm at

2114
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:07,040
so

2115
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:09,040
that's that's where we're at we're at in

2116
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,360
this you know like it's moving ahead um

2117
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:13,679
so let's let's do it you know

2118
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:15,520
um we have nothing to fear from the

2119
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:18,480
truth this is a quote that lewis said so

2120
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:20,239
let's talk about some truth we have

2121
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:22,480
nothing to hide

2122
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:24,080
yeah well uh

2123
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,239
a wiser man than me once said the only

2124
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:28,400
people who fear questions are people

2125
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:30,880
with something to hide

2126
01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:33,440
yeah that's concerning to me too like

2127
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:36,080
why not just just you know do a hardball

2128
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,760
interview get this stuff all out of the

2129
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,440
way it doesn't seem like it ever i don't

2130
01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:40,960
think he could survive it i think it

2131
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,920
would [\h__\h] his image and he's now a

2132
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:45,840
public figure so it's all about image

2133
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:47,679
it's not about reality it's about image

2134
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:49,600
so as long as people are cool signing on

2135
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,719
with that but you might as well be

2136
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:52,400
signing on with the latest loudmouth

2137
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,760
politician because that's pretty much

2138
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:55,199
what he's doing it's the same kind of

2139
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:57,280
thing you know it's just like oh you

2140
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:58,400
know like we're going to change

2141
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:59,679
everything he's not changing nothing man

2142
01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:00,640
he's going to tell you what you want to

2143
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,080
hear to get your vote he's going to do

2144
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:04,080
what he wants that's what they all do

2145
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:05,280
doesn't matter

2146
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:07,199
yeah did you happen to see this letter

2147
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:08,800
too that chris mellon put out like

2148
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:10,159
basically saying that the government

2149
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,560
should give lou his job back if they

2150
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:14,960
start a new ufo program how did how

2151
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,960
would you feel about that like

2152
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,480
i'd be shocked i want to know why he

2153
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:20,719
hasn't lost security clearance for

2154
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,400
basically for his role in the leak of

2155
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:24,960
those videos you know i mean

2156
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,679
it

2157
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:27,840
christopher mellon in the unidentified

2158
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:30,239
or no the phenomenon movie admits that

2159
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:31,600
he

2160
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,679
i'm not sure that national security

2161
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:39,040
things are really kind of bending the

2162
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:40,719
rules those are kind of felonies you

2163
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:43,120
know so um

2164
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:44,800
i don't know i

2165
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:46,159
the only thing i could put up with and i

2166
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:47,679
do talk about this in the film is that

2167
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:48,880
there is some strong political

2168
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:49,920
connections there and when you add

2169
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:51,600
christopher mellon indeed into the

2170
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:53,679
equation it makes perfect sense because

2171
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:55,520
the guy's connected back to his i think

2172
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,440
great grandfather who founded that melon

2173
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:59,760
bank of pittsburgh and was like a judge

2174
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:01,199
you know like and has been they've been

2175
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:02,480
politically connected for four

2176
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:04,800
generations um so

2177
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,880
um i think that's part of why lou's

2178
01:20:09,750 --> 01:20:08,159
connected at the hip with him because

2179
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:09,760
that's his political connections like

2180
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:12,000
that's gonna keep him protected you know

2181
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,400
that's why he's probably not in jail um

2182
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,760
but

2183
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:17,440
who knows man i'm not i'm not inside the

2184
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:20,159
pentagon i'm not inside of the ncis

2185
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,600
office that would investigate a leak in

2186
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:22,960
the navy footage like this i'm not

2187
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,520
inside of the federal prosecutor's

2188
01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:27,360
office those are the people who should

2189
01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:29,199
be looking at this and saying

2190
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:30,800
why didn't they investigate this there

2191
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:32,639
was a clearly a leak from the pentagon

2192
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:34,239
why were they allowed to profit from

2193
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,040
this

2194
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:37,120
substantially why are they allowed to

2195
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:39,840
continue to profit from it and then

2196
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,760
snub their nose and and for mellon to

2197
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:43,920
ask for lou to have his job back that's

2198
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,000
[\h__\h] ridiculous i'm sorry that is the

2199
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,080
most absurd thing i've heard in my life

2200
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:49,760
you know those two

2201
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:51,840
lou should be in prison not getting his

2202
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:54,159
job back in my opinion i think he broke

2203
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,440
many laws but we'll see you know like

2204
01:21:02,550 --> 01:20:59,760
will he ever be prosecuted probably not

2205
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:02,560
probably not he's got political i i i've

2206
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:04,960
mentioned i have a real problem with him

2207
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:07,040
somehow getting those videos out and

2208
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:08,800
leaking them and then profiting from

2209
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:10,159
them for years

2210
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:11,760
you know yeah

2211
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:13,840
and the other thing that gets me is if

2212
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:15,920
that's the best that he could get

2213
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,520
while working in the pentagon these

2214
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:19,600
grainy ass videos that may or may not

2215
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:22,320
have been manipulated video added sound

2216
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:23,440
added

2217
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:26,800
yeah you know oh yeah you know uh the

2218
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:30,800
the what some videos were not the videos

2219
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:33,199
they were not pristine data is what i'm

2220
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,159
saying though they were manipulated or

2221
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:38,800
purposefully down sampled so that they

2222
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:41,440
would be grainy as [\h__\h] i just don't

2223
01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:42,480
understand

2224
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,400
that that's the best that the pentagon

2225
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,120
has as far as ufo videos i don't believe

2226
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:49,360
it because

2227
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:50,719
where's the center where's the other

2228
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,440
sensor data data yeah where's the

2229
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:55,440
reports we're corroborating evidence we

2230
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,480
never do he says he exists why didn't he

2231
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:00,239
release that with this stuff if it

2232
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:02,080
existed why didn't i think that they

2233
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,760
might have caught on to him if he asked

2234
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:05,760
for all that to be declassified you see

2235
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:08,960
the thing is in 2000 october 2017 when

2236
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:10,880
he quit he had filed

2237
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,600
i think a month before that to release

2238
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:15,360
those videos that he filed that document

2239
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,280
request and if he'd have gone on the

2240
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:19,600
radar as requesting all this other stuff

2241
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:20,480
they wouldn't have done it they'd have

2242
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,920
been like oh no you're up to no good you

2243
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:23,600
shouldn't have that stuff atip's closed

2244
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:25,120
you're not even you're part of the

2245
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,120
special access projects management staff

2246
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:28,560
now you're not even at's been closed

2247
01:22:31,990 --> 01:22:31,040
since 2012. why are you wanting ufo

2248
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:32,000
videos

2249
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:37,840
the nimitz footage in luzon words was an

2250
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:40,239
a-tip dog and pony video whenever they

2251
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,920
brought somebody by the a-tip office to

2252
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,760
show them what the program was about

2253
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:45,360
that's the video that they showed to the

2254
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:48,080
politicians to the to the junior

2255
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:49,360
military

2256
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:50,080
yeah

2257
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:53,040
there's probably thousands of people who

2258
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:54,239
have seen that that was nothing good

2259
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,520
that was garbage it was junk show us the

2260
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:59,440
good stuff like you said earlier you

2261
01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:00,159
know

2262
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:01,600
don't come out with three pieces of

2263
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:04,000
sketchy video promise us a dozen more

2264
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:05,520
that never showed up

2265
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,520
promised us a ufo with tom delong that

2266
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:09,520
never shows up promised us a ufo

2267
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:10,719
tracking app that we can put on our

2268
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:12,000
phone that never shows up with tom

2269
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:14,159
delong you know and then

2270
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:16,880
things don't go your way you know like

2271
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:18,880
um yeah

2272
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,480
what do you think about the separation

2273
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:22,560
between him and ttsa i think that he

2274
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,440
kind of

2275
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:25,120
figured he could make more money as a

2276
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,280
solo if you want to know my opinion and

2277
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,199
i speak about this in the film it's my

2278
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:31,360
opinion that it was larger than that and

2279
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:33,760
it was geopolitical and it really had to

2280
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:36,080
do with the 2020 election

2281
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:38,159
um because if you'll notice there there

2282
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,040
was and i talk about it in the book um

2283
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:43,120
right in the last 70 days of trump's

2284
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:45,600
presidency he gutted the pentagon he cut

2285
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:47,360
a bunch of people out of there and left

2286
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,639
a hole for lose buddies to come flying

2287
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:52,159
in and do whatever the hell they're

2288
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:53,840
doing now and

2289
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:57,040
that was a last-ditch effort basically

2290
01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:58,800
um because they thought that if they

2291
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,840
were going to keep trump and they

2292
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,199
probably would have dropped us out of a

2293
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:02,960
few more missile treaties or something

2294
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,719
like that but i don't know what they

2295
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:06,159
were up to and i do talk about that in

2296
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:08,480
the movie because um

2297
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:10,320
it's uh you don't know you know we're

2298
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,320
not flying the wall at ttsa with tom

2299
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:14,719
delong chris mellon and lou elizondo and

2300
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:16,320
to be honest with you i doubt lou even

2301
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,719
knows what the plan is he's not a king

2302
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,639
you know he's a

2303
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:22,800
rook i won't say he's a pawn he's a rook

2304
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:24,080
but he's not a king there's somebody

2305
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:25,600
else bigger than him putting this

2306
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:28,000
together you know um you can figure out

2307
01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:29,280
for yourselves how far it goes does it

2308
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,520
go to the cia does it go to bob bigelow

2309
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,600
does it just go to lou and melon and you

2310
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,280
know a couple of people sitting around a

2311
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:36,960
bar going yeah we're getting rich you

2312
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,719
know like i don't think so melon doesn't

2313
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,320
strike me as a kind of guy needs any

2314
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:42,000
money you know so i think his motives

2315
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:43,360
are more for

2316
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:46,000
an industry that he's you know his

2317
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:48,239
family's been ingrained in for years

2318
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:50,320
maybe a defense industry or something i

2319
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:51,360
don't know

2320
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:54,560
yeah and and i see v in the live chat no

2321
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:57,120
we just did three shows that were like

2322
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:59,679
on just regular enduring mysteries we

2323
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:01,840
have been i'm trying to be kinder and

2324
01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:04,719
gentler but sometimes i gotta speak up

2325
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,639
okay i like i like the controlled

2326
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:08,239
opposition because that's really where

2327
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,000
lewis placed himself is really right at

2328
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,480
the top of the ufology subculture you

2329
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:14,159
know he's he's put himself there to

2330
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:16,320
control the narrative and he does it

2331
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:19,199
with the minority of followers but a

2332
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,360
majority of vocal voices if that makes

2333
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:23,040
sense you know the numbers are again

2334
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:24,800
very small minority but they're very

2335
01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,600
loud wow supporters are very loud they

2336
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:29,360
attack everyone

2337
01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:31,920
mercilessly that asks questions you just

2338
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:33,520
get hammered

2339
01:25:37,990 --> 01:25:35,760
you know i mean i asked one question why

2340
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:38,000
didn't he release his tax returns and i

2341
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:39,760
clipped that video out of that show and

2342
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:43,440
i put it on oh man did i get

2343
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,440
i couldn't believe it and again all

2344
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:47,840
right mostly brand new twitter accounts

2345
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:53,430
that's like an old stan friedman thing

2346
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,800
like let me see your taxes so i can

2347
01:25:58,470 --> 01:25:56,400
prove what military rank you were let me

2348
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:58,480
see your dd214 let me see your your

2349
01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:00,000
discharge papers where's your reports

2350
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,760
where's your where's your

2351
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:03,679
you know where are you gonna prove your

2352
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:05,280
story you know and

2353
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:06,719
it seems like a lot of people have lost

2354
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,159
sight of that man like there's not many

2355
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:10,560
people like you and me that say hey

2356
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:12,400
where's the proof in this where's the

2357
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:13,840
evidence man because all the evidence

2358
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:17,679
that i've seen shows something else like

2359
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:19,760
but again i don't think he's interested

2360
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:21,920
in truth man which is funny for a guy

2361
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:24,320
whose number one promise on twitter is i

2362
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:26,000
will always tell you the truth

2363
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:28,400
i will always push for full disclosure i

2364
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:29,920
will always respect anyone no matter

2365
01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:31,600
what their opinion well lou it's pretty

2366
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:34,000
disrespectful to ignore people to ignore

2367
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:35,679
people who ask you

2368
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:38,960
legitimate questions is rude you know so

2369
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:41,520
whatever you know if he wants to be a

2370
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:43,040
a guy who says one thing and does

2371
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:44,400
another that's fine but it's pretty

2372
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,639
clear what he's about and you know his

2373
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:48,400
his staunch followers will follow him

2374
01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:49,840
right off the cliffs like the lemmings

2375
01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:52,239
that they are unfortunately but uh yeah

2376
01:26:55,910 --> 01:26:53,920
it does seem that way it seems like he's

2377
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:55,920
the right pipe he's the pied piper and

2378
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,760
everybody's following him right off the

2379
01:27:01,430 --> 01:27:00,000
cliff maybe you're right they are yeah i

2380
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:01,440
don't know i just don't understand and i

2381
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,760
don't understand the cult like

2382
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:05,840
atmosphere that's sort of grown around

2383
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:08,719
him you know like again but we've i've

2384
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:11,440
seen this before and grant cameron uh

2385
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:13,679
talks about this it's like this

2386
01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:17,120
phenomenon of the ufo savior do you know

2387
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:20,480
what i mean like this is the disclosure

2388
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:22,239
of disclosure who's going to bring it

2389
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:23,520
and it's going to make it happen and

2390
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:25,360
people truly believe that about lu like

2391
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:33,990
yeah if you hadn't brought it if you you

2392
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,800
know it's

2393
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:37,120
he's just he's using it for his own

2394
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:38,719
machine now and you'll notice how his

2395
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:41,120
agenda kind of changes every two years

2396
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:42,960
depending on how one you know the

2397
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:44,159
congressional votes go or the

2398
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,080
presidential elections he's just it's

2399
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:48,480
like this man and so you you understand

2400
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:50,320
that there's really only one there's a

2401
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:52,560
few industries that kind of follow that

2402
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,719
cycle but there's one that follows it

2403
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:56,639
like religiously and that's the defense

2404
01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:57,760
industry because that's where they get

2405
01:28:00,950 --> 01:28:00,000
all their money every penny of it that's

2406
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,960
where they get it they don't have any

2407
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:02,639
other customers other than foreign

2408
01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:04,480
people who they can sell money to you

2409
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,960
know so there's been a lot and you know

2410
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:08,880
like we could talk about the geopolitics

2411
01:28:12,229 --> 01:28:10,159
taxes you know there were some other

2412
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:12,239
plays made in 2017

2413
01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,159
around this where international arms

2414
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:16,159
sales were taxed a little differently

2415
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:18,560
you know from like a 35 percent to a

2416
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,120
zero percent maybe you know so

2417
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:23,360
which is kind of messed up because arms

2418
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,719
sales on advanced technology is supposed

2419
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,880
to go back to the taxpayers who paid for

2420
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:28,800
that technology to be created in the

2421
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:30,639
first place that's why they tax these

2422
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,679
arms companies they're like hey you

2423
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:33,440
could sell it abroad to our allies but

2424
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:34,560
we're going to take a chunk back for the

2425
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:36,400
taxpayers they're not doing that anymore

2426
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:38,800
yeah gunner 65 is asking how long you

2427
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:41,440
waited for a response uh to your foia

2428
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:42,480
from

2429
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:44,320
the national personnel records that are

2430
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,159
still waiting yeah oh i'm sorry i did

2431
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:48,719
get an uh response within 24 hours that

2432
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,880
the office was closed i've got my my

2433
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,800
confirmation numbers and they said it'll

2434
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:54,400
be handled when the office opens back up

2435
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:56,239
again to full capacity they'll be doing

2436
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,080
a fifo i think first in first out type

2437
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:59,760
thing so i'm in the queue and i've got

2438
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:01,520
numbers to check when the office opens

2439
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:04,080
back up again but during the lockdown

2440
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:06,320
time they were only doing emergency

2441
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,000
uh requests for

2442
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:11,040
you know like vets who need homeless uh

2443
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:12,239
need homes you know and stuff and i was

2444
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:13,440
like [\h__\h] dude that's more important

2445
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:14,560
than anything i'm talking about with

2446
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:15,840
this guy like let's get some vets and

2447
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:18,800
some houses man like they don't need to

2448
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,040
hell with lou and his lies you know like

2449
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:23,440
but um yeah so

2450
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,120
yeah i don't know when i'll get an

2451
01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:27,120
answer but when i do it'll go up on the

2452
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:28,719
page if i get it it'll go up on the web

2453
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:30,800
page any additional information i get as

2454
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:32,719
the movie come after the movie comes out

2455
01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:34,880
i'll be putting on the web page so um

2456
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:36,560
people can check that out and i'll be

2457
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:38,480
advertising that in the movie

2458
01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:40,320
once it's live the web page is live i'll

2459
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:41,679
be putting it live right right before

2460
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:43,520
that so yeah so you're gonna have a

2461
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:46,239
website to go for for this before this

2462
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:48,719
specific project which is great

2463
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,560
everybody should be able to find it no

2464
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:53,120
problem yeah yeah and like i said i'll

2465
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:54,400
advertise that i don't want to push it

2466
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:55,440
till the

2467
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,840
it goes live but um

2468
01:30:01,910 --> 01:29:59,520
yeah you still got a little bit of air

2469
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:01,920
pulling to get through right that final

2470
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:03,760
render

2471
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:04,960
yeah yeah

2472
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,639
it is it's

2473
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:08,560
yeah yeah the way i've structured my

2474
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:10,000
stuff the final one isn't too bad but

2475
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:11,199
it's all the ones leading up to that

2476
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:12,719
with the subparts because some of these

2477
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:14,400
one of these projects was an hour long

2478
01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:17,760
and it was so big man it it um oh yeah

2479
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:19,440
that you know like i had a few setbacks

2480
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:21,280
here like my damned uh film editor

2481
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:23,280
decided to up update on me halfway

2482
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:24,719
through the project so half of the

2483
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:27,040
project files had to be converted to the

2484
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:29,199
new new program

2485
01:30:32,629 --> 01:30:31,040
yeah yeah and they completely redid the

2486
01:30:34,390 --> 01:30:32,639
layout in my editor with this new

2487
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:34,400
version and i and i didn't know where

2488
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:35,920
anything was which slowed down my

2489
01:30:40,229 --> 01:30:38,400
workflow to a crawl you know because i'm

2490
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:40,239
trying to learn the new layout and

2491
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:42,719
things that used to only take us

2492
01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:45,199
three clicks like my editor i turn it

2493
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:48,719
off i'm like i have it on a dvd install

2494
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:51,679
it's a couple of years old i put it in

2495
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:53,600
to a workstation and the first thing i

2496
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,320
do is turn off online updates

2497
01:31:00,550 --> 01:30:58,480
i like it the way it came out the box

2498
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:00,560
yeah mess with it you know yeah because

2499
01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:02,560
they do that that kind of stuff happens

2500
01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:04,480
drives me nuts yeah

2501
01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,199
yeah definitely i had resisted the urge

2502
01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:08,960
to click the update but i'd gone in and

2503
01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:10,560
out of the editor so many times it just

2504
01:31:14,229 --> 01:31:12,320
kind of reflexively clicked to update at

2505
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:14,239
one time and it started updating i was

2506
01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:17,040
like oh god here we go you know like

2507
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:18,719
what am i in for

2508
01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:21,199
so uh yeah hey i need a quick break real

2509
01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:22,639
quick just a minute or two is that all

2510
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,600
right yeah yeah sure sure yeah

2511
01:31:29,830 --> 01:31:27,360
let me let me knock you out let me know

2512
01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:29,840
when you're back oh wait a minute or

2513
01:31:33,669 --> 01:31:31,600
maybe a big screen wrong one there you

2514
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:33,679
go

2515
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:36,000
so uh tonight we're talking with uh

2516
01:31:48,629 --> 01:31:45,990
and uh i for one can't wait to see the

2517
01:31:50,229 --> 01:31:48,639
whole thing tonight we got an exclusive

2518
01:31:51,669 --> 01:31:50,239
preview right at the beginning of our

2519
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:51,679
broadcast here in case you're just

2520
01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:52,800
joining us

2521
01:31:57,110 --> 01:31:55,199
uh 10 or 12 minutes of it and i think

2522
01:31:59,669 --> 01:31:57,120
that manny has raised a lot of important

2523
01:32:02,550 --> 01:31:59,679
questions questions that uh

2524
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:02,560
should be asked and in my view

2525
01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:04,880
should be answered right

2526
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:07,120
um

2527
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:09,120
vinnie coxes with a kind and generous

2528
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:10,960
499 super chat thank you for your

2529
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:12,639
kindness your generosity and your

2530
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,000
support of the show

2531
01:32:17,669 --> 01:32:16,080
it is much much appreciated we're a

2532
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:17,679
viewer supported show there's a few ways

2533
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:18,880
you could do that you could join our

2534
01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:20,480
patreon for as little as a dollar a

2535
01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:21,360
month

2536
01:32:26,870 --> 01:32:24,400
uh we give extra content patreon only

2537
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:26,880
streams a monthly show journal as well

2538
01:32:31,510 --> 01:32:29,360
as all my music gets posted there

2539
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:31,520
sometimes we post uh previews of

2540
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,840
upcoming production videos there all for

2541
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:35,760
as little as a dollar a month or you can

2542
01:32:39,189 --> 01:32:37,280
send a

2543
01:32:42,149 --> 01:32:39,199
paypal donation

2544
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:42,159
uh and the instructions to do that are

2545
01:32:45,430 --> 01:32:43,199
in the

2546
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:45,440
description of this video

2547
01:32:48,950 --> 01:32:47,360
you can also send a super chat if we're

2548
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:48,960
broadcasting live that would be that

2549
01:32:54,070 --> 01:32:51,440
money button down there uh which we just

2550
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:54,080
got a kind and generous super chat from

2551
01:32:58,870 --> 01:32:57,520
venice's for 4.99 you can send any

2552
01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:58,880
amount you wish

2553
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:01,920
any um denominations any kind of money

2554
01:33:06,709 --> 01:33:04,000
don't worry about it whatever money you

2555
01:33:11,110 --> 01:33:06,719
have youtube will convert it for us

2556
01:33:16,070 --> 01:33:13,830
uh great so i i want to thank david for

2557
01:33:18,229 --> 01:33:16,080
a kind and generous paypal donation of

2558
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:18,239
ten dollars and i want to thank warren

2559
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:20,080
for a kind and generous

2560
01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:23,360
uh paypal donation of 25

2561
01:33:27,830 --> 01:33:25,840
and also want to thank alan for a kind

2562
01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:27,840
and generous five dollars thank you guys

2563
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:29,440
for your kindness your generosity and

2564
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:31,280
your support of the show much much

2565
01:33:35,510 --> 01:33:33,040
appreciated we are a viewer supported

2566
01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:35,520
show so throwing a few bucks in the hat

2567
01:33:41,350 --> 01:33:38,800
really does help us to keep the show

2568
01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:41,360
continuing forward and we want to thank

2569
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:43,520
and recognize each and every one of you

2570
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:45,840
unlike some shows we read every single

2571
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:48,880
super chat every single super chat

2572
01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:51,520
uh so uh

2573
01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:53,280
i think that's important to recognize

2574
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:54,719
people that are supporting you i don't

2575
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:56,400
understand some of these shows

2576
01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:57,280
uh

2577
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:59,120
and it especially bothers me when it's a

2578
01:34:02,310 --> 01:34:00,480
show that's getting like you know

2579
01:34:04,229 --> 01:34:02,320
hundreds or thousands of dollars in

2580
01:34:06,149 --> 01:34:04,239
super chats and they don't even bother

2581
01:34:09,270 --> 01:34:06,159
to thank the viewers

2582
01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:09,280
um so here is uh

2583
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:10,880
those are the three ways to support us

2584
01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:12,960
by throwing money at us but there is one

2585
01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:15,360
more way and that is to like comment

2586
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:17,840
subscribe and share

2587
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:19,280
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2588
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:21,280
audio podcast land please remember that

2589
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:23,520
you're missing half the fun go on over

2590
01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:26,400
to youtube put truth seekers in the

2591
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:28,159
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2592
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:29,840
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2593
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:32,400
campion smash the subscribe button hit

2594
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:34,800
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2595
01:34:39,669 --> 01:34:37,120
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2596
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:39,679
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2597
01:34:44,709 --> 01:34:42,880
be a part of the live tapings of the

2598
01:34:46,550 --> 01:34:44,719
true seekers podcast

2599
01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:46,560
uh that's part of the fun you hear we're

2600
01:34:50,229 --> 01:34:48,560
taking comments questions suggestions

2601
01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:50,239
from the audience we love that

2602
01:34:54,070 --> 01:34:51,920
interaction so please come here and be a

2603
01:34:55,590 --> 01:34:54,080
part of it the other way to help

2604
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:55,600
make sure you

2605
01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:57,040
leave a comment let us know what you

2606
01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:58,880
think of this show

2607
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:00,800
like comment subscribe and share these

2608
01:35:03,990 --> 01:35:02,880
on your social media it really does help

2609
01:35:05,669 --> 01:35:04,000
us to

2610
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:05,679
uh continue

2611
01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:07,520
there we go maddie's back

2612
01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:10,159
it really helps us to continue this show

2613
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:11,920
so sorry about that usually we have a

2614
01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:13,840
musical break but i didn't have anything

2615
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:14,880
queued up

2616
01:35:18,149 --> 01:35:16,800
you know where we're gonna wrap things

2617
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:18,159
up though i don't want to keep you too

2618
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:20,159
long i appreciate you taking the time to

2619
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:22,719
do this and and to and especially for

2620
01:35:25,270 --> 01:35:24,159
giving us the

2621
01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:25,280
uh

2622
01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:28,719
especially for giving us the preview the

2623
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:30,560
10-minute preview of the film so

2624
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:33,040
everybody gets a sneak peek here thanks

2625
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:34,320
for doing that

2626
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:35,760
yeah definitely you're welcome steven

2627
01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:37,119
you've been a great help to me through

2628
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,119
this project man just having a sounding

2629
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:41,679
board to talk to and bounce things off

2630
01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:43,600
of and whatnot and i'm glad to come here

2631
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:45,040
man i'm glad to talk with you about this

2632
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:46,880
and we'll talk more after the film comes

2633
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:48,639
out because i'll be a little bit more

2634
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:49,840
open about what i'm talking about

2635
01:35:52,709 --> 01:35:50,880
everything will be out i don't want to

2636
01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:52,719
give away the spoilers right now you

2637
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:54,159
know

2638
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:56,159
and there's a few spoilers there's a few

2639
01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:58,000
really good pieces including a whopper

2640
01:36:01,669 --> 01:36:00,400
right at the end so i hope everyone out

2641
01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:01,679
there gets a chance to check out the

2642
01:36:06,870 --> 01:36:04,400
movie when it comes out and um if you

2643
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:06,880
want to see if you want to help try to

2644
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,880
put some pressure on lou go out to my

2645
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:10,480
twitter and follow me on twitter and

2646
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:13,280
when i make my requests you know and use

2647
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:15,760
the hashtag who's lou and ask him to you

2648
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:17,920
know be interviewed like that post

2649
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:19,840
retweet it get it you know the only way

2650
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:21,920
that he will ever respond to people like

2651
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:23,520
us is if we get some pressure on him

2652
01:36:26,870 --> 01:36:25,040
because he's proven time and time again

2653
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,880
like you said earlier stephen he won't

2654
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:28,560
come on shows that are questioning you

2655
01:36:31,910 --> 01:36:30,000
know he he

2656
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:31,920
it in the film i call it a scratch and

2657
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:33,760
sniff tactic where you scratch them and

2658
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:35,760
see what they're made of and then

2659
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:37,280
okay i like this one i'll go over there

2660
01:36:40,790 --> 01:36:38,960
i won't go there you know like and

2661
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:40,800
that's exactly what he does to people

2662
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:42,639
like us you know he'll go on a show

2663
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:43,679
that's got

2664
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:46,320
10 people watching it and you know 300

2665
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:48,080
subscribers but he won't come on your

2666
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:50,159
show and answer some hard questions and

2667
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:51,760
that's probably yeah and you know what i

2668
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:54,560
just wanted to say in clarity

2669
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:55,840
i have uh

2670
01:37:00,310 --> 01:36:58,080
i have made it my policy that we will

2671
01:37:02,629 --> 01:37:00,320
always be respectful we might ask hard

2672
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:02,639
questions but we you know i've had some

2673
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:04,880
people here that were like

2674
01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:07,520
i could i didn't vet enough you know

2675
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:08,719
like and i just shouldn't even have

2676
01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:10,400
interviewed them because some of their

2677
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:12,800
stories were just too wackadoo and wild

2678
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:14,719
and out there and no evidence but we

2679
01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:17,119
were very respectful and we always are

2680
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:19,600
to everybody that comes here as a guest

2681
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:22,320
we try to you know yeah absolutely and

2682
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:23,840
you know like

2683
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:25,920
you know people have been downright

2684
01:37:30,629 --> 01:37:28,320
just nasty to me on social media and

2685
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:30,639
responses to lou you know defending him

2686
01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:31,840
some of those people you were talking

2687
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:33,440
about and then they sit there and say

2688
01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:35,440
that i'm a jerk for the way i talk to

2689
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:37,040
him and i'm like

2690
01:37:40,310 --> 01:37:39,119
i just don't get some of the hypocrisy

2691
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:40,320
that's out there but i don't care i'm

2692
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:41,280
just like whatever people are just

2693
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:43,440
people they can do what they want um you

2694
01:37:45,910 --> 01:37:44,159
know

2695
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:45,920
and also manny it has something to do

2696
01:37:51,430 --> 01:37:48,480
with a little bit a little bit has to do

2697
01:37:53,669 --> 01:37:51,440
with just how men are right like

2698
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:53,679
you know i like men that i can talk to

2699
01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:54,800
like men

2700
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:56,719
you know some of these kind of people

2701
01:38:02,070 --> 01:37:59,440
that are like you know really uh

2702
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:02,080
easily offended or you know like i want

2703
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:04,400
to be able to look i'm a man i can talk

2704
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:06,000
like a man you're a man we could talk

2705
01:38:11,030 --> 01:38:08,239
like men together luke can take it

2706
01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:11,040
military guys are you know they could

2707
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:13,360
take a little bit of a ball busting they

2708
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:15,520
you know they can talk like men military

2709
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:18,400
guys talk like men behind closed doors

2710
01:38:22,390 --> 01:38:20,960
so i don't understand people getting so

2711
01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:22,400
offended when you just ask some

2712
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:24,000
questions right

2713
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:26,000
right right you know and and

2714
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:28,800
it's a debate tactic to feign you know

2715
01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:31,040
that kind of to fake that sort of

2716
01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:32,239
offense you know you're like i don't

2717
01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:33,199
like what you're going to talk about i'm

2718
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:35,280
going to twist it and make it seem like

2719
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:36,960
you said this and it's just it's it's so

2720
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,360
basic and draining and people just love

2721
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:41,360
to do that to you on social media tie up

2722
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:44,320
in in circles and meanwhile where's

2723
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,440
elizondo why he says his number four

2724
01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:49,360
promise is to treat people respectfully

2725
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:51,360
but you know he lets people do this to

2726
01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:52,880
other people all the time and he doesn't

2727
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:54,560
tell them hey guys don't do that and

2728
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:56,639
that really kind of makes me mad you

2729
01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:58,880
know like if those were people who watch

2730
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:01,199
my channel doing that to someone i'd say

2731
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:02,639
don't you do that you know don't be

2732
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:04,080
harassing someone don't be bullying

2733
01:39:07,189 --> 01:39:06,000
someone yeah and by the way no i have to

2734
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,199
don't do it

2735
01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:09,440
yeah i have i i just had to do that this

2736
01:39:13,189 --> 01:39:11,199
week because some people were

2737
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:13,199
they were tweeting at people that i

2738
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:15,440
covered like david wilcock or jimmy

2739
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:16,639
church or

2740
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:19,840
whoever emery smith and and referencing

2741
01:39:23,669 --> 01:39:22,159
me like hey you know and i had to tell

2742
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:23,679
people like don't do that i don't want

2743
01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:27,040
to be cool yeah and especially don't

2744
01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:28,719
include my name because the other thing

2745
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,320
is that people could take that as a form

2746
01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:32,480
of of me directing people to harass

2747
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:34,880
people and i certainly we don't condone

2748
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:37,600
anybody doing anything like that here so

2749
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:38,719
yeah

2750
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:40,960
he should come forward and say hey guys

2751
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:43,199
uh people are allowed to ask questions

2752
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:45,520
people are allowed to

2753
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:47,440
doubt me it's okay i tell people that

2754
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,960
all the time i say let the man answer

2755
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:51,600
for himself man he has a he's on twitter

2756
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:53,760
he knows how to type clearly you know

2757
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:55,119
right yeah

2758
01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:56,800
why does a guy have to hide behind all

2759
01:40:01,990 --> 01:39:59,440
these people who who act like jerks for

2760
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:02,000
him and then not not disavow their no

2761
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:04,080
their actions you know like not get rid

2762
01:40:07,910 --> 01:40:05,840
of not say hey man i distanced myself

2763
01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:07,920
that ain't me you know like and that

2764
01:40:10,629 --> 01:40:09,280
that is a message to everyone out there

2765
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:10,639
if you're that kind of person don't come

2766
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:12,000
around me and my channel i don't want

2767
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:14,159
that crap i don't want that negativity i

2768
01:40:17,590 --> 01:40:15,679
want to have a real conversation and

2769
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:17,600
it'll be respectful you know like i can

2770
01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:19,760
ask someone a hard question respectfully

2771
01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:21,119
i'm not gonna i'm not gonna be like oh

2772
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:23,119
you're a freaking liar lou you're a pos

2773
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:24,880
you're a jerk

2774
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:26,639
you know what i have to say that i've

2775
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:28,880
lost my [\h__\h] a few times

2776
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,760
and

2777
01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:31,920
it's even recently like you know we had

2778
01:40:36,149 --> 01:40:34,320
these we had these certain uh content

2779
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:36,159
creators come on here and and i let

2780
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:37,600
loose on him and i i should have done

2781
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:40,080
that i realized later and i apologized

2782
01:40:43,750 --> 01:40:41,920
but i realized later if somebody comes

2783
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,760
here they're doing me a favor and

2784
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,760
they're doing my audience a favor yeah

2785
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:47,199
so i should be i should be more

2786
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:48,560
respectful and certainly not yell and

2787
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:49,760
scream at people

2788
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,159
you know yeah but i get i'm a passionate

2789
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:54,239
guy so i got pissed off and i you know

2790
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:56,080
and then i feel you there and then i

2791
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:58,239
thought i may never get another crack at

2792
01:41:03,910 --> 01:41:01,199
this egg so i'm cracking it i do not you

2793
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:03,920
know i just said i'm packing this one

2794
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:05,520
i'm going to ask these three most

2795
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:07,600
important questions or make the points i

2796
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:09,679
want to make and they can say whatever

2797
01:41:13,990 --> 01:41:11,679
and you know it got pretty heated but at

2798
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:14,000
the end of the day everybody was okay

2799
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,840
because we talk like men and we work you

2800
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:17,679
know work it out i guess

2801
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:19,600
yeah yeah i mean there's no reason to be

2802
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:21,679
be disrespectful or to be rude or

2803
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:23,440
whatever you know and i don't honestly i

2804
01:41:26,390 --> 01:41:24,719
i hate to say it but calling somebody a

2805
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:26,400
bullshitter isn't really disrespectful i

2806
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:27,360
mean you could

2807
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:29,119
yes is it after four years of being

2808
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:31,040
ignored by the guy is it i mean yeah add

2809
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:32,639
a little context to it and maybe it

2810
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:35,280
might be a little different but um yeah

2811
01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:36,560
i don't know if people want to take one

2812
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:38,560
or two of my tweets out of context and

2813
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:40,080
you know say oh this is what you always

2814
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:42,400
do manny i i i let him i don't care i

2815
01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:43,600
really don't care what people think you

2816
01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:45,760
know like i'm just gonna do me and they

2817
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:47,679
can do them

2818
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,159
yeah yeah well i for one i'm glad that

2819
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:52,080
you're making this film and i can't wait

2820
01:41:55,030 --> 01:41:53,600
to see it so hopefully you'll let us

2821
01:41:56,550 --> 01:41:55,040
know as soon as it's done because i

2822
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:56,560
could do a review of the whole thing

2823
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:58,800
here and and give people the link try to

2824
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:01,679
amplify your voice because unfortunately

2825
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:03,920
that's another problem in this sphere

2826
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:07,119
which is sometimes the guy with the big

2827
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:08,960
is bullhorn just wins

2828
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:11,440
and then they don't answer questions

2829
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:12,800
and they don't have to because they have

2830
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:14,719
a bigger bullhorn and they can just say

2831
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:16,639
nothing to see here into their big

2832
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:18,880
bullhorn and guys like you and me with a

2833
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:21,600
smaller bighorn uh bullhorn you know i

2834
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:22,960
think it's important and i'm going to

2835
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:24,560
ask other people that i know to try to

2836
01:42:27,830 --> 01:42:26,639
post your link and amplify it your voice

2837
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,840
too because i think this is important

2838
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:29,520
work people need to see it they need to

2839
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:31,520
hear it they need to think about it

2840
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:32,880
and i'm glad you're doing that work

2841
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:34,080
manny

2842
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:35,679
yeah thanks man i'm just you know like i

2843
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,719
said i'm just trying to put it all

2844
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:38,159
together because i've spent a lot of

2845
01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:39,840
time on this and i've and i've tried to

2846
01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:41,520
get people to to understand why i feel

2847
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,119
the way i do but it's so hard sometimes

2848
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:44,719
and hopefully this film will do that you

2849
01:42:49,109 --> 01:42:47,040
know it'll just here it is you know it's

2850
01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:49,119
a mountain of evidence to counteract the

2851
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:51,760
mountain of of stories that are on the

2852
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,920
other side you know because i i wanted

2853
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,679
to say evidence but there's no evidence

2854
01:42:58,629 --> 01:42:57,119
on the other side i mean there's none

2855
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:58,639
there really isn't anything to pack up

2856
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:01,119
all the radio stories i mean it's just

2857
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:03,040
they are they're just war stories so if

2858
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:04,320
that's what people

2859
01:43:08,629 --> 01:43:07,360
you know um if you want those go for it

2860
01:43:10,629 --> 01:43:08,639
you know um

2861
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:10,639
but if you want any form of truth i'd

2862
01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:12,639
recommend not really listening to what

2863
01:43:16,390 --> 01:43:14,159
he has to say because

2864
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:16,400
he's into he's got his own agenda and

2865
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,760
that's the truth

2866
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:19,840
i mean he does have an agenda

2867
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,760
um it might shift every two years with

2868
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:23,520
the election cycles but it's still an

2869
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:24,480
agenda

2870
01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:26,560
you know so yeah maybe people are

2871
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:27,920
suggesting that he might get into

2872
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:30,239
politics too and run run to be a senator

2873
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:31,760
or congressman

2874
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:33,520
he had said so in one of his interviews

2875
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:35,040
that he might run in in the state that

2876
01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:36,639
he lives in and i left because in the

2877
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:38,080
state he lives in you can get elected

2878
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:39,119
for like

2879
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:41,119
20 000 votes you know like it's kind of

2880
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:43,199
a joke and then that's why we're talking

2881
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:45,040
about all these new senators in congress

2882
01:43:48,070 --> 01:43:45,840
who are

2883
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,080
fighting the pentagon at the uap issue

2884
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,920
i'm like you [\h__\h] nimrod's no they're

2885
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:51,280
not they're a bunch of rookies who are

2886
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:53,679
just being led along by their

2887
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:55,280
money by money

2888
01:43:58,870 --> 01:43:56,560
these kids don't know any better they're

2889
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:58,880
just getting these committee assignments

2890
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:59,920
because they know that they'll do what

2891
01:44:02,629 --> 01:44:01,280
they're told when they go in there you

2892
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,639
know like that's

2893
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:04,320
i mean what do you say like it's it's

2894
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:05,760
serious like

2895
01:44:09,750 --> 01:44:08,159
he might run i don't know i i doubt you

2896
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:09,760
know that he could win in any sort of

2897
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:11,600
real fair election where people look at

2898
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,000
facts but i don't know i mean other

2899
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:16,000
people have won politics by being

2900
01:44:19,669 --> 01:44:17,679
lying you know

2901
01:44:21,669 --> 01:44:19,679
to say whatever you want so

2902
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:21,679
yeah maybe he did he sure acts like a

2903
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:23,280
politician i mean ignoring people who

2904
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:25,920
question him only going on select

2905
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:27,840
channels that will you know cast him in

2906
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:30,080
a favorable light um

2907
01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,159
you know uh isolating himself from

2908
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:34,480
critiques and reviews uh blindly

2909
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:36,080
claiming wins when they're evident

2910
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:38,320
failures you know like it's 180d report

2911
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,310
nothing it was a big nothing

2912
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:46,560
i want to thank anonymous rex with a

2913
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:48,560
kind and generous 4.99 super chat who

2914
01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:50,400
says great yes tonight

2915
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:52,159
manny your work looks great i sent you

2916
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:54,000
an email thank you well thank you for

2917
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:55,360
your kindness your generosity and your

2918
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:56,800
support of the show anonymous rex and

2919
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:58,320
i'm sure manny will look out for your

2920
01:45:02,470 --> 01:44:59,440
email

2921
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:02,480
maybe some people once in a while some

2922
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:04,560
somebody will be in the live chat with a

2923
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:06,880
very nice nugget of information to share

2924
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:08,800
so maybe that's what that's about i'm

2925
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:11,040
hopeful that you'll get you'll get uh

2926
01:45:15,109 --> 01:45:13,520
some more useful nuggets and along those

2927
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:15,119
lines yeah if anybody out there watching

2928
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:16,639
this has got some information that they

2929
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:18,159
feel would be relevant for this send it

2930
01:45:23,030 --> 01:45:20,480
in to me at my email address real area

2931
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:23,040
503 gmail.com

2932
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:24,880
and uh you know i will look at it you

2933
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,400
know but i do want evidence i'm not

2934
01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:28,320
interested in rumors and opinions and

2935
01:45:31,270 --> 01:45:29,600
thoughts and feelings really i want

2936
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:31,280
evidence so let's let's have something

2937
01:45:35,109 --> 01:45:33,280
to back it up i mean i guess rumors are

2938
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:35,119
cool but you know i still want to i'd

2939
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:36,159
still

2940
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:37,920
see a document to support something you

2941
01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:39,920
know i get i get an awful lot of both in

2942
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:42,880
my inbox personally you know i i get a

2943
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:44,400
lot of both so

2944
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:46,000
well i want to thank you for joining us

2945
01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:47,280
i'm going to throw you out of here and

2946
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:48,639
then i'm going to take and then i am

2947
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,639
going to take a quick musical break

2948
01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:52,639
and then i'm just going to do uh

2949
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:54,080
take questions and comments from the

2950
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:55,840
live chat for a little while but i

2951
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:57,440
appreciate you being here tonight i hope

2952
01:46:01,830 --> 01:45:59,840
you'll come back once the film is done

2953
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:01,840
uh especially if i give you a terrible

2954
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:02,880
review

2955
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:04,000
this is

2956
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:05,600
oh for sure man i'll definitely come

2957
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:06,400
back

2958
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,239
we're gonna have manny come and explain

2959
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:10,480
why this film sucks so big no i think i

2960
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:12,639
love it i'd love it i love it so i can

2961
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,400
tell already i'm gonna like it so i

2962
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:16,560
can't wait to see it thank you for doing

2963
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,840
this important work and thanks for

2964
01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:19,440
coming here and giving us this exclusive

2965
01:46:24,550 --> 01:46:22,480
uh first peek at it i appreciate that

2966
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:24,560
yeah my pleasure um looks like there's

2967
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:25,760
some people i want to say hi to you real

2968
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:27,760
quick man from i've seen

2969
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:29,920
audios here and captain corrosive was

2970
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:32,080
here earlier jessica's here lord

2971
01:46:35,669 --> 01:46:33,840
ludacris platt all kinds of cool people

2972
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:35,679
man who are you guys are the ones who i

2973
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:37,119
sit and talk to so i'm glad to see you

2974
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:39,280
guys here and give you guys all a shout

2975
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:41,520
out and say hey it's good to be seen for

2976
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:42,880
once instead of just hanging out in the

2977
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:48,070
well you are most welcome here friend

2978
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,760
you have a great night

2979
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:51,760
all right take care take care out there

2980
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:52,960
everyone

2981
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:55,119
all right boy there we go what a great

2982
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:56,960
uh what a great

2983
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:59,040
guest uh with some important work to

2984
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,080
share

2985
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:02,080
and uh

2986
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,440
boy uh

2987
01:47:08,870 --> 01:47:05,360
we've got a lot of great new shows and

2988
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:08,880
stories coming up for you next week uh

2989
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:11,760
but it's friday night so uh

2990
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:13,440
i'm gonna take we're gonna take a short

2991
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:15,520
musical break and when i come back

2992
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:18,320
i will read any new or remaining super

2993
01:47:22,149 --> 01:47:20,560
chats i will devote my full and total

2994
01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:22,159
attention to the live chat so if you

2995
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:24,080
have comments questions suggestions for

2996
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:25,600
new shows

2997
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,760
uh i will be giving my full and total

2998
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:29,520
attention

2999
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:31,760
to the live chat

3000
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,760
and reading any remaining super chat so

3001
01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:35,440
if you feeling generous and you want to

3002
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:37,040
throw a couple of bucks in our hat know

3003
01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:39,119
that we read every single super chat and

3004
01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:41,119
when i return from this short break we

3005
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:42,639
will be

3006
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:50,070
so

3007
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:54,730
be right back friends

3008
01:47:54,740 --> 01:48:22,790
[Music]

3009
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:31,990
is

3010
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:44,070
for granted

3011
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:47,270
nothing is right

3012
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:36,490
do you want

3013
01:49:36,500 --> 01:49:40,550
[Applause]

3014
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:51,030
nothing

3015
01:49:51,040 --> 01:50:02,280
is

3016
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:23,630
[Music]

3017
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:46,060
just tell me

3018
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:56,390
[Music]

3019
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:06,310
is

3020
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:40,629
and we are back friends so uh

3021
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:43,280
i noticed we got a new super chat let me

3022
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,199
make sure we recognize that kind and

3023
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:47,760
generous person we have a

3024
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:49,520
with a kind of generous five dollar

3025
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:51,040
super chat thank you for your kindness

3026
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:52,800
your generosity and your support of the

3027
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:53,760
show

3028
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:55,679
and thanks to everyone tonight for their

3029
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:57,280
kindness their generosity and their

3030
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:59,040
support this is a viewer supported show

3031
01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:00,560
so if you're feeling generous there's a

3032
01:52:03,990 --> 01:52:02,080
money button down there and we read

3033
01:52:06,149 --> 01:52:04,000
every single super chat

3034
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:06,159
and recognize everybody

3035
01:52:10,550 --> 01:52:08,880
um area 503 is now in our live chat

3036
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:10,560
saying truth seekers you got it stephen

3037
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:12,159
thanks for having me i was thanking him

3038
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:24,629
thanking him in the live chat there

3039
01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:25,510
so

3040
01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:26,639
um

3041
01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:28,239
comments questions for me please put

3042
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:30,719
them in all capital letters

3043
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:33,440
i see that we have many people who are

3044
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:35,920
asking again and i put the

3045
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:39,360
area 503 youtube channel into the

3046
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,280
live chat earlier but i can do that

3047
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:43,440
again because people are asking where is

3048
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:44,480
it that you're going to be able to see

3049
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:45,920
this he's going to host it right on his

3050
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:48,400
own youtube channel

3051
01:53:00,870 --> 01:52:58,390
yeah so it's just just put area 503 into

3052
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:00,880
the youtube search bar but i'm going to

3053
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,560
put it right into our live chat right

3054
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:03,840
now

3055
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:05,840
you should hit the subscribe button over

3056
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:08,400
there you'll get a notification when the

3057
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:10,560
email is or excuse me when the

3058
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:14,080
documentary is done and then you'll know

3059
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:15,119
it's there

3060
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:21,189
cosmic youtube's question for you steve

3061
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:22,880
have you attempted to communicate with

3062
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:25,199
uaps yet i'm not quite sure what you

3063
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:27,280
mean communicate i've shot a laser

3064
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:28,880
pointer at something in the sky i wasn't

3065
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:30,560
sure what it was maybe that's not such a

3066
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:34,400
good idea but now not really communicate

3067
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:35,520
um

3068
01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:37,360
i'm not even sure how you would do that

3069
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:38,800
uh but

3070
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,760
you know

3071
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:41,840
i know that some people are into this

3072
01:53:46,149 --> 01:53:44,480
ce5 stuff and uh i

3073
01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:46,159
really

3074
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:47,760
don't

3075
01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:50,880
that's possible

3076
01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:53,199
i'm not a big fan of this uh

3077
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,440
buy an app and talk to aliens for ten

3078
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:57,840
dollars i think that's very suspect so

3079
01:54:06,470 --> 01:53:59,119
i'm not sure if that's what you mean by

3080
01:54:10,229 --> 01:54:08,470
off world adam says i have to

3081
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:10,239
travel a story to have a smoke that was

3082
01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:12,159
quick steve well we'll try to get longer

3083
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:14,639
musical guests for your smoking pleasure

3084
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:16,639
there off world adam

3085
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:18,000
um

3086
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:22,400
who go to bed with the nichibot and wake

3087
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:24,719
up with a brown finger great

3088
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:30,390
pearls of wisdom here right

3089
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,000
first floor audio is here and says true

3090
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:34,080
seekers great show tonight manny at area

3091
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:36,159
503 makes for a great guest yeah i would

3092
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:37,679
tend to agree i'm glad we could finally

3093
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:39,840
have him here uh as more than just a

3094
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:42,159
quick panel member he's been on a few

3095
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:44,960
panels or jumped on here but not not to

3096
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:46,239
this extent

3097
01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,760
and you know

3098
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,360
he's one of the few people that i had

3099
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:51,440
seen out there asking

3100
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:53,520
a lot of these questions about lou so

3101
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:56,000
you know i think it's important that we

3102
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:57,840
air not just

3103
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:00,560
believer voices but more skeptical ones

3104
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:06,310
yeah spooky is asking what other

3105
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:08,159
enduring mysteries would you like us to

3106
01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:09,360
cover

3107
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:11,520
i know uh we've got a few more of those

3108
01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:13,840
enduring mysteries and by the way spooky

3109
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:15,679
i didn't realize but we have another

3110
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:17,520
episode of enduring mysteries the

3111
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,440
georgia guide stones

3112
01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:22,000
so whenever i finally do the playlists

3113
01:55:25,189 --> 01:55:23,280
and by the way spooky that's one of the

3114
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:25,199
reasons i'm doing more enduring mystery

3115
01:55:30,870 --> 01:55:28,000
shows so that we can have good playlists

3116
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:30,880
uh we will soon have a roswell playlist

3117
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:32,960
we will soon have an enduring mysteries

3118
01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:36,000
playlist a christian mysteries playlist

3119
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:37,520
among others

3120
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:39,599
um

3121
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:40,960
spooky's been trying to get me to do

3122
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:42,960
that for months

3123
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:44,800
and i know it's not hard but i was like

3124
01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:46,639
well we need more

3125
01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:49,760
playlists so uh we're working on getting

3126
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:51,679
some more shows of this enduring

3127
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:54,560
mysteries series so that we could have

3128
01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:57,199
an enduring mysteries playlist

3129
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:58,719
i don't know about you but especially

3130
01:56:02,629 --> 01:56:00,800
when i'm going to sleep i like playlists

3131
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:02,639
because then i can listen to like you

3132
01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:04,560
know it won't shut off it'll just keep

3133
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:06,800
going until i fall asleep right

3134
01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:08,960
there is many many hours of content on

3135
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:10,880
many many different subjects

3136
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:12,239
unfortunately right now we just have

3137
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:14,239
them all in chronological order and you

3138
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:15,920
have to go through this huge list or you

3139
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:17,679
can use the search bar

3140
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:20,000
to search for a specific topic but it'll

3141
01:56:23,109 --> 01:56:21,440
be much better once we have these

3142
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:23,119
playlists in place we're going to try to

3143
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:24,719
get that set up

3144
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:26,880
and also a bit of show business for the

3145
01:56:31,589 --> 01:56:29,599
people that had asked yes i was horribly

3146
01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:31,599
behind in the audio podcast but we're up

3147
01:56:36,550 --> 01:56:34,480
to date except for this very show which

3148
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:36,560
i will be uploading to spreaker right

3149
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:38,880
after we conclude our broadcast so we're

3150
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:41,360
all up to date on that

3151
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:43,280
these alternate video platforms were

3152
01:56:47,430 --> 01:56:45,040
behind in again so i'm going to be

3153
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:47,440
working on that this weekend no rest for

3154
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:49,040
the wicked right

3155
01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:51,360
um you know there won't be shows

3156
01:56:54,790 --> 01:56:53,280
tomorrow night and most likely not

3157
01:56:56,390 --> 01:56:54,800
sunday night

3158
01:56:58,149 --> 01:56:56,400
we'll be returning monday but in the

3159
01:57:00,709 --> 01:56:58,159
meantime i'll be work i'll still be

3160
01:57:02,470 --> 01:57:00,719
working on show stuff uh here

3161
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:02,480
i'm not going to the cabin this weekend

3162
01:57:06,790 --> 01:57:05,599
because it's going to be negative six

3163
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:06,800
uh and

3164
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:09,520
when it's negative six at the cabin just

3165
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:11,920
getting from the main road if there's

3166
01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:13,599
ice or snow

3167
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:14,560
um

3168
01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:16,159
just getting from the main road to the

3169
01:57:21,109 --> 01:57:19,199
cabin is sometimes almost impossible

3170
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,119
when it's that cold and then negative

3171
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:25,589
you know i did a good job building that

3172
01:57:29,669 --> 01:57:27,679
cabin at least one room is super well

3173
01:57:31,510 --> 01:57:29,679
insulated but the other two rooms are

3174
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:31,520
drafty as hell

3175
01:57:37,669 --> 01:57:34,159
and need a lot more work so uh

3176
01:57:40,070 --> 01:57:37,679
yeah i check out when it's like 15 or

3177
01:57:42,709 --> 01:57:40,080
less but i definitely check out cabin

3178
01:57:45,830 --> 01:57:42,719
trips when it's negative six i'll i'll

3179
01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:45,840
pass i'll pass on this weekend uh and

3180
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:47,840
you know i'll just hang out at home and

3181
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:49,440
try to get some stuff done for the show

3182
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:51,599
for the coming week we have

3183
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:53,520
these enduring mystery shows to prep and

3184
01:58:01,910 --> 01:57:59,750
all right i mean can you do an episode

3185
01:58:04,470 --> 01:58:01,920
with believers in mediaship and skeptics

3186
01:58:05,830 --> 01:58:04,480
on mediumship there are so many mediums

3187
01:58:07,270 --> 01:58:05,840
on youtube claiming the channel

3188
01:58:09,830 --> 01:58:07,280
celebrities from the great beyond like

3189
01:58:12,950 --> 01:58:09,840
above live channel yes mr levine i have

3190
01:58:13,910 --> 01:58:12,960
done previous shows on mediums

3191
01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:13,920
um

3192
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:16,320
there's a series that's another series

3193
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:19,040
playlist we can make spooky called my

3194
01:58:23,430 --> 01:58:21,040
favorite fake psychics

3195
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,440
and uh at least half of those fake

3196
01:58:28,390 --> 01:58:25,520
psychics or more even i think were

3197
01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:28,400
mediums we did a show on the long island

3198
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:31,360
medium we did a show on john edward and

3199
01:58:35,270 --> 01:58:32,320
on

3200
01:58:37,669 --> 01:58:35,280
van praag and a few other well-known

3201
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:37,679
celebrity mediums art levine but we can

3202
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:39,040
certainly return

3203
01:58:43,990 --> 01:58:41,760
uh if we get willing participants

3204
01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:44,000
i would be willing to host a panel show

3205
01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:46,639
of both believers and skeptics in

3206
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:49,599
the art of talking to the dead because i

3207
01:58:55,510 --> 01:58:51,920
think it's a lot of hui and nonsense

3208
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:55,520
never found i have investigated art

3209
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:56,400
um

3210
01:59:02,870 --> 01:58:59,679
at least a hundred psychics and about

3211
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:02,880
half of them were mediums and uh i have

3212
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:05,440
not found a single one that i believe

3213
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:07,599
had any kind of supernatural powers or

3214
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:10,080
that was truly speaking to the dead

3215
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:12,239
uh what i found is people doing magic

3216
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:14,080
tricks and hokey

3217
01:59:19,109 --> 01:59:17,040
cold reading techniques

3218
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:19,119
that's all i have found as far as

3219
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:20,400
mediums go i don't think there's

3220
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:22,000
anything to it and

3221
01:59:25,750 --> 01:59:23,599
i have a real problem with mediums

3222
01:59:28,629 --> 01:59:25,760
because they profit from the misery and

3223
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:28,639
the grief of grieving people

3224
01:59:31,910 --> 01:59:30,239
a lot a lot of these people that go and

3225
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:31,920
pay a medium they have unresolved

3226
01:59:34,629 --> 01:59:33,360
conflicts with somebody in their life

3227
01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:34,639
that has died

3228
01:59:38,709 --> 01:59:37,119
and they're in pain over it they want

3229
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:38,719
some resolution so they pay the

3230
01:59:42,629 --> 01:59:40,960
charlatan to apparently talk to their

3231
01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:42,639
dead relative i don't believe they talk

3232
01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:46,000
to anybody but their imaginary friends

3233
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:48,080
but that's my take on it you know other

3234
02:00:03,589 --> 02:00:01,430
lord ludacris plaid mentioning david

3235
02:00:05,589 --> 02:00:03,599
wilcock in the big matrix news yes

3236
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:05,599
apparently the entire matrix movie was

3237
02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:07,840
copied off of david wilcock

3238
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:09,199
yes the new one

3239
02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:11,520
they ripped him off man they stole

3240
02:00:15,830 --> 02:00:13,119
everything in a new matrix movie came

3241
02:00:24,629 --> 02:00:15,840
from david wilcock according to him

3242
02:00:28,950 --> 02:00:27,350
craig williams says heard uh about an

3243
02:00:31,189 --> 02:00:28,960
unveiling tonight something about the

3244
02:00:33,669 --> 02:00:31,199
freshest charged crystal skull has

3245
02:00:36,470 --> 02:00:33,679
emerged from the einstein chamber we

3246
02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:36,480
meet carolyn ford the caretaker oh geez

3247
02:00:41,750 --> 02:00:40,159
god what a bunch of nonsense

3248
02:00:43,669 --> 02:00:41,760
off world adam says i've quit cold

3249
02:00:45,189 --> 02:00:43,679
turkey twice before stress is high at

3250
02:00:47,109 --> 02:00:45,199
the moment i really don't like smoking

3251
02:00:48,550 --> 02:00:47,119
i'm a junkie yeah it's terrible habit

3252
02:00:49,669 --> 02:00:48,560
i'm trying to quit in favor of these

3253
02:00:51,589 --> 02:00:49,679
vapes but

3254
02:00:53,510 --> 02:00:51,599
i just can't get used to this vape thing

3255
02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:53,520
it just doesn't it's not

3256
02:00:58,149 --> 02:00:55,440
it's not doing it for me i don't know if

3257
02:01:01,109 --> 02:00:58,159
the vape is not high enough in nicotine

3258
02:01:02,950 --> 02:01:01,119
um i'm i'm gonna get a new vape that's

3259
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:02,960
gonna be the highest nicotine level that

3260
02:01:06,149 --> 02:01:04,560
i could get you know maybe that'll do it

3261
02:01:08,629 --> 02:01:06,159
for me because i vaped for a year and a

3262
02:01:10,390 --> 02:01:08,639
half before quit smoking and just vaped

3263
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:10,400
but i'm having trouble getting started

3264
02:01:14,149 --> 02:01:12,639
on the vaping again

3265
02:01:17,430 --> 02:01:14,159
what i really have to do is commit to

3266
02:01:18,390 --> 02:01:17,440
not smoking in the house anymore

3267
02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:18,400
because

3268
02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:20,080
when i switched to vaping before that's

3269
02:01:23,990 --> 02:01:21,760
what i did i could vape in the house but

3270
02:01:25,750 --> 02:01:24,000
i couldn't smoke in the house so

3271
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,760
eventually that got me to just vape

3272
02:01:29,669 --> 02:01:27,280
because i'm just sitting there in front

3273
02:01:31,030 --> 02:01:29,679
of the computer or whatever

3274
02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:31,040
uh

3275
02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:32,560
yeah

3276
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:35,040
no more uh bets pleases vaping rocks you

3277
02:01:39,669 --> 02:01:36,880
have to push through and get used to it

3278
02:01:41,830 --> 02:01:39,679
yeah i mean uh i did once

3279
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:41,840
and i just can't do it now

3280
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:43,520
i gotta get

3281
02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:45,040
um

3282
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:46,960
no more bets please i have to get a good

3283
02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:48,560
refillable

3284
02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:51,840
uh vape with some really good juice

3285
02:01:54,790 --> 02:01:53,920
chris johansson says get 20 milligram

3286
02:01:56,950 --> 02:01:54,800
juice

3287
02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:56,960
yeah i don't know uh i'm gonna look into

3288
02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:58,800
getting a higher nicotine vape because i

3289
02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:00,159
think that's the problem it's just too

3290
02:02:04,070 --> 02:02:02,560
low so i can vape on that thing for 10

3291
02:02:11,030 --> 02:02:04,080
minutes and i still want a cigarette or

3292
02:02:14,390 --> 02:02:12,229
yeah i don't know what this guy's

3293
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:14,400
talking about

3294
02:02:19,430 --> 02:02:17,599
dr num nuts uh what a great uh what a

3295
02:02:24,149 --> 02:02:19,440
great

3296
02:02:26,149 --> 02:02:24,159
user id dr num nuts

3297
02:02:27,990 --> 02:02:26,159
truth seekers get the highest wear patch

3298
02:02:30,229 --> 02:02:28,000
as well for a week it was easy for me

3299
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:30,239
good idea that girl jessica i'm gonna do

3300
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:32,560
it i it's on my list i have to i just

3301
02:02:35,430 --> 02:02:34,560
have to do it i have to get over this

3302
02:02:38,390 --> 02:02:35,440
you know

3303
02:02:40,709 --> 02:02:38,400
um and on the uh and other health issues

3304
02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:40,719
i i was having i was drinking way too

3305
02:02:43,910 --> 02:02:41,599
much

3306
02:02:46,070 --> 02:02:43,920
so uh this last couple of weeks i really

3307
02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:46,080
try to cut down and i think that i did i

3308
02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:49,440
survived this week on 12 years

3309
02:02:53,990 --> 02:02:50,800
i think

3310
02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:54,000
which is uh sure beats 40

3311
02:02:57,270 --> 02:02:56,560
or a 30 pack and a 12 pack maybe you

3312
02:02:58,310 --> 02:02:57,280
know

3313
02:03:01,030 --> 02:02:58,320
just this

3314
02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:01,040
health stuff and you know

3315
02:03:05,510 --> 02:03:03,520
being stuck at home a lot in wintertime

3316
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:05,520
so i'm just sitting at home

3317
02:03:10,229 --> 02:03:08,000
um yeah i'm trying a lot of harm

3318
02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:10,239
reduction right so

3319
02:03:14,790 --> 02:03:12,159
trying to quit smoking in favor of

3320
02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:14,800
vaping trying to cut down or

3321
02:03:19,510 --> 02:03:17,760
substantially reduce my alcohol intake

3322
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:19,520
as well i feel a lot better this week

3323
02:03:23,189 --> 02:03:21,599
and last week having done that

3324
02:03:25,589 --> 02:03:23,199
that's just too much you know you can't

3325
02:03:27,589 --> 02:03:25,599
drink 10 or 12 beers a day it's not good

3326
02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:27,599
for you and then i'm gaining weight from

3327
02:03:32,470 --> 02:03:29,520
it so uh

3328
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:34,629
spooky is mentioning the other reason

3329
02:03:40,229 --> 02:03:37,199
why i did not go to the cabin because

3330
02:03:42,149 --> 02:03:40,239
i have yet ever to be caught or stuck at

3331
02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:42,159
the cabin but i'm always afraid that's

3332
02:03:45,350 --> 02:03:43,679
going to happen

3333
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:45,360
because if a huge snowstorm rolls

3334
02:03:50,149 --> 02:03:47,440
through while i'm at the cabin i'm stuck

3335
02:03:51,750 --> 02:03:50,159
for two days they don't get to the roads

3336
02:03:53,189 --> 02:03:51,760
i won't be able to get out to the main

3337
02:03:54,790 --> 02:03:53,199
road for at least a few days till it

3338
02:03:56,310 --> 02:03:54,800
starts melting or

3339
02:03:57,910 --> 02:03:56,320
yeah so that's the other reason i'm not

3340
02:03:59,510 --> 02:03:57,920
going in cabin spooky says careful

3341
02:04:01,669 --> 02:03:59,520
driving on the east coast this weekend

3342
02:04:03,189 --> 02:04:01,679
big winter storm coming through

3343
02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:03,199
yeah

3344
02:04:10,709 --> 02:04:07,840
my height recently

3345
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:10,719
i was drinking a 30 pack plus maybe a 12

3346
02:04:15,910 --> 02:04:12,400
pack or

3347
02:04:18,069 --> 02:04:15,920
a 36 pack of miller light in one week

3348
02:04:19,430 --> 02:04:18,079
and that is way too much for me so uh

3349
02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:19,440
you know this week i made it through the

3350
02:04:23,350 --> 02:04:21,920
week with 12 pack

3351
02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:23,360
i think that's

3352
02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:25,760
much better than a 30 pack right

3353
02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:33,189
getting stuck at the cabin sales

3354
02:04:37,030 --> 02:04:35,520
wonderful if prepared yeah not when you

3355
02:04:39,990 --> 02:04:37,040
got to get home so that you can take

3356
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:40,000
care of your kids on monday pragmatic so

3357
02:04:45,109 --> 02:04:42,800
uh yeah

3358
02:04:47,510 --> 02:04:45,119
i did my car died there one time but

3359
02:04:49,990 --> 02:04:47,520
triple a came and it was a frozen fuel

3360
02:04:52,709 --> 02:04:50,000
pump and he banged on it it was like

3361
02:04:55,030 --> 02:04:52,719
zero out and the fuel pump froze the car

3362
02:04:57,990 --> 02:04:55,040
wouldn't start so a guy came from triple

3363
02:04:58,709 --> 02:04:58,000
a with a tow truck and he uh

3364
02:05:01,109 --> 02:04:58,719
he

3365
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:01,119
just went i i i have no idea i'm not a

3366
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:02,800
car guy i didn't know why it wouldn't

3367
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:04,480
start he said yeah it's probably fuel

3368
02:05:09,430 --> 02:05:07,679
pumps uh stuck he said uh keep cranking

3369
02:05:10,870 --> 02:05:09,440
and i'm gonna go under here and

3370
02:05:12,550 --> 02:05:10,880
bang on it and that's what he did he

3371
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:12,560
just crawled under the car and banged on

3372
02:05:15,990 --> 02:05:14,320
the fuel pump while i cranked it and

3373
02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:16,000
started right up i was able to get the

3374
02:05:19,830 --> 02:05:18,000
hell out of there i've never been so

3375
02:05:21,750 --> 02:05:19,840
happy to hear a car start because i was

3376
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:21,760
worried that i wasn't gonna get home you

3377
02:05:25,910 --> 02:05:23,920
know two hours from home

3378
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:25,920
and a car that won't start in the middle

3379
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:28,239
of uh a snowstorm a big it was the

3380
02:05:31,589 --> 02:05:29,840
middle of a big snowstorm and i was like

3381
02:05:34,069 --> 02:05:31,599
please god let this car start so i can

3382
02:05:37,030 --> 02:05:34,079
get out of here while i can still get

3383
02:05:39,189 --> 02:05:37,040
out of here you know i don't we don't we

3384
02:05:41,750 --> 02:05:39,199
don't have four wheel drive so

3385
02:05:43,030 --> 02:05:41,760
i have traction control which does about

3386
02:05:46,830 --> 02:05:43,040
nothing

3387
02:05:50,870 --> 02:05:49,430
right archaic revival mentioning i don't

3388
02:05:53,189 --> 02:05:50,880
know when to say when i take everything

3389
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:53,199
to extremes i'm always told too much is

3390
02:05:59,270 --> 02:05:55,679
never enough cold turkey is

3391
02:06:01,669 --> 02:05:59,280
all that works for me yeah but you know

3392
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:01,679
i guess uh you know i have a very wise

3393
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:04,239
sober friend who says uh harm reduction

3394
02:06:07,830 --> 02:06:05,840
is a good thing stephen but you can't

3395
02:06:08,790 --> 02:06:07,840
train a dragon

3396
02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:08,800
uh

3397
02:06:13,750 --> 02:06:11,520
and i said what he said yeah it's it's a

3398
02:06:16,470 --> 02:06:13,760
dragon you think you think you're gonna

3399
02:06:18,790 --> 02:06:16,480
train a dragon or control a dragon

3400
02:06:21,189 --> 02:06:18,800
you're not going to it's a dragon and by

3401
02:06:23,669 --> 02:06:21,199
its very nature

3402
02:06:25,189 --> 02:06:23,679
it's beyond control so i don't know

3403
02:06:27,669 --> 02:06:25,199
we'll see what happens i'm going to try

3404
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:27,679
the harm reduction thing right now

3405
02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:29,599
before i uh

3406
02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:31,920
try something more drastic but i have in

3407
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:34,159
the past quit for uh i don't know a year

3408
02:06:38,470 --> 02:06:35,840
and a half i quit drinking alcohol

3409
02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:38,480
totally i went to aaa and everything

3410
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:40,239
um

3411
02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:42,239
so you know we all have our struggles i

3412
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:45,119
guess mine is

3413
02:06:50,470 --> 02:06:47,360
i like this thing so can i keep it in my

3414
02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:50,480
life without it becoming really

3415
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,629
yeah how do you not have all-wheel drive

3416
02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:00,400
in the ice and snow my wife has

3417
02:07:04,310 --> 02:07:02,800
all-wheel drive i have traction control

3418
02:07:06,310 --> 02:07:04,320
but neither of us has a car with

3419
02:07:08,550 --> 02:07:06,320
four-wheel drive and v when i went to

3420
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:08,560
look for my lace car i tried like how to

3421
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:10,079
find a car with four-wheel drive a

3422
02:07:13,510 --> 02:07:11,520
subaru or something with four-wheel

3423
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:13,520
drive or an old jeep and we couldn't

3424
02:07:17,109 --> 02:07:15,599
find anything with four-wheel drive that

3425
02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:17,119
was in decent shape they were all

3426
02:07:21,270 --> 02:07:18,719
beaters so

3427
02:07:22,870 --> 02:07:21,280
i opted for a car with traction control

3428
02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:22,880
and that turned out to be a mistake you

3429
02:07:29,030 --> 02:07:27,199
know that doesn't do anything really

3430
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:29,040
pragmatic says everything in moderation

3431
02:07:33,910 --> 02:07:32,159
including modern moderation neil young

3432
02:07:36,790 --> 02:07:33,920
yes sometimes you gotta just cut it

3433
02:07:41,430 --> 02:07:36,800
loose right preg magic just

3434
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:43,189
james pepper says do it with a doctor

3435
02:07:47,189 --> 02:07:44,239
get the v

3436
02:07:49,270 --> 02:07:47,199
b vitamins if you go cold turkey

3437
02:07:52,950 --> 02:07:49,280
yeah i don't know i went three i think

3438
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:52,960
three days recently with no alcohol so

3439
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,079
i don't think that i have physical

3440
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:55,840
withdrawal symptoms i think it's all

3441
02:07:59,830 --> 02:07:58,079
psychological with me and like boredom

3442
02:08:01,189 --> 02:07:59,840
like well i'm not doing anything what am

3443
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:01,199
i doing tonight let's listen to some

3444
02:08:05,510 --> 02:08:03,679
music and drink or you know let's play

3445
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:05,520
some games and drink or

3446
02:08:09,189 --> 02:08:07,360
it just you know becomes sort of uh

3447
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:09,199
something that you do when you don't

3448
02:08:14,149 --> 02:08:11,520
have anything else going on i do notice

3449
02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:14,159
this that the more i work

3450
02:08:18,229 --> 02:08:15,920
the less i drink because i just have

3451
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:18,239
less time you know or i have things that

3452
02:08:22,950 --> 02:08:21,520
i got to do for work the next day so i

3453
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:22,960
drink less

3454
02:08:35,430 --> 02:08:33,669
v says i would never live or visit in a

3455
02:08:37,270 --> 02:08:35,440
climate without any way to get out how

3456
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:37,280
scary to sleep and not have any way to

3457
02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:38,719
leave if need be

3458
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:41,760
now most of the time i'm fine v

3459
02:08:46,069 --> 02:08:44,320
but it it makes me worry when it snows

3460
02:08:47,589 --> 02:08:46,079
so if they predict that there's going to

3461
02:08:48,790 --> 02:08:47,599
be a big snowstorm i don't go that

3462
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:48,800
weekend because i don't want to get

3463
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:49,679
stuck

3464
02:08:55,109 --> 02:08:52,320
but i will say that i have a really

3465
02:08:56,149 --> 02:08:55,119
close friend there matt my neighbor

3466
02:08:58,870 --> 02:08:56,159
who

3467
02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:58,880
if necessary he would hook a chain to my

3468
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:01,199
car with his big four-wheel drive truck

3469
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:03,040
and drag me to the main road he wouldn't

3470
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:04,400
let me be stuck

3471
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:06,000
so you know there's that but you really

3472
02:09:09,669 --> 02:09:07,360
don't want to i really don't want to

3473
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:09,679
have to have him drag me

3474
02:09:13,430 --> 02:09:11,679
to the front road you know

3475
02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:13,440
it's a big [\h__\h] and everything but i

3476
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:14,639
know he's a good enough friend that he

3477
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:16,480
wouldn't let me get stranded he would

3478
02:09:22,790 --> 02:09:18,639
try to get me to the main road

3479
02:09:27,750 --> 02:09:25,030
yeah then thanks uh cosmic you toast

3480
02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:27,760
appreciate that

3481
02:09:30,550 --> 02:09:29,199
yeah that's what happened with me too

3482
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,560
they're called jessica i didn't start

3483
02:09:34,550 --> 02:09:32,480
drinking because of covered but i

3484
02:09:37,109 --> 02:09:34,560
certainly increased my intake probably

3485
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:37,119
doubled my intake over covid because i

3486
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:38,880
wasn't doing as much and i was stuck at

3487
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:41,199
home and you know

3488
02:09:45,669 --> 02:09:44,000
yeah i i should watch it too you know

3489
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:45,679
some of you guys know my mother died of

3490
02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:48,480
uh of bad alcoholism so it's kind of

3491
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:50,639
stupid for me to drink at all

3492
02:10:02,870 --> 02:09:51,520
um

3493
02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:05,109
yeah gutter 65 says more snow in your

3494
02:10:09,990 --> 02:10:07,280
area yeah possibly six to eight inches

3495
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:10,000
we're supposed to get great

3496
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,159
no more bets please says i'm so hungover

3497
02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:14,400
right now yeah that's one

3498
02:10:17,830 --> 02:10:15,840
that's one thing i didn't miss when i

3499
02:10:19,510 --> 02:10:17,840
quit drinking completely right

3500
02:10:21,510 --> 02:10:19,520
but you know i think i got it down now

3501
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:21,520
it's like drink a six pack if you do

3502
02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:23,199
drink don't drink a

3503
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:25,280
12 pack you know

3504
02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:27,040
and then the next day is not not

3505
02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:32,629
jimmy m that's what my mother died of

3506
02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:35,280
well she died of she had sclerosis of

3507
02:10:39,189 --> 02:10:37,199
the liver and then she died of liver

3508
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:39,199
total liver failure

3509
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:45,270
our cake revival says thought i'd share

3510
02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:46,960
an irish pub tale my grandfather worked

3511
02:10:51,830 --> 02:10:49,280
in a brewery one shift he fell into the

3512
02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:51,840
massive vet of guinness his co-workers

3513
02:10:54,830 --> 02:10:53,760
jumped in to try to save him but he

3514
02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:54,840
fought them off

3515
02:11:01,350 --> 02:10:58,480
bravely yes i've heard that joke before

3516
02:11:03,030 --> 02:11:01,360
65 says i love beer yeah and then we're

3517
02:11:09,430 --> 02:11:03,040
about says drinking and video games has

3518
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:11,189
lincoln liar says we need to dismantle

3519
02:11:14,950 --> 02:11:13,760
the still and jimmy m tell me to smoke

3520
02:11:17,510 --> 02:11:14,960
instead

3521
02:11:19,750 --> 02:11:17,520
all these things are uh on the rise says

3522
02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:19,760
my closest neighbor is a mile away they

3523
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:21,280
have a rental house that's empty close

3524
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:22,960
to me it's quiet where i am sounds like

3525
02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:25,440
my kind of place on the rise my kind of

3526
02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:26,800
place

3527
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,599
yeah so listen i want to thank our uh

3528
02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:31,360
our great guest tonight manny from area

3529
02:11:37,589 --> 02:11:33,440
503 and especially thank him for giving

3530
02:11:40,229 --> 02:11:37,599
us the exclusive first peek at this

3531
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:40,239
new documentary who's lou

3532
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:41,920
i want to thank each and every one of

3533
02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:44,400
you guys for joining us here tonight

3534
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:46,000
you always hear me say this always happy

3535
02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:47,440
when there's an audience thank you so

3536
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:49,440
much for coming here tonight and being a

3537
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:50,719
part of mine

3538
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:52,800
um it's been kind of a tough week you

3539
02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:56,000
know we ventured out into other subjects

3540
02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:57,440
and

3541
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:59,520
we kind of took a hit on the numbers but

3542
02:12:03,270 --> 02:12:00,960
i'm okay with that because i think in

3543
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:03,280
the long term it's important to not just

3544
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:04,560
cover

3545
02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:06,960
uh certain you know we want to be more

3546
02:12:10,870 --> 02:12:09,119
broad in our coverage here i don't want

3547
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:10,880
to be stuck talking about

3548
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:13,520
ufos every night um

3549
02:12:16,790 --> 02:12:15,280
so we're trying other subjects we're

3550
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:16,800
trying other

3551
02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:17,679
you know

3552
02:12:20,870 --> 02:12:18,800
things that really aren't in my

3553
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:20,880
wheelhouse but kind of are or interests

3554
02:12:23,830 --> 02:12:22,480
of mine and i hope

3555
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:23,840
we've got a lot of great positive

3556
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:26,000
feedback but uh

3557
02:12:30,069 --> 02:12:28,400
it seems like the uh

3558
02:12:31,350 --> 02:12:30,079
there are certain subjects that will get

3559
02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:31,360
a lot more

3560
02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:34,800
other subjects

3561
02:12:38,950 --> 02:12:37,760
not so many people want to tune in to

3562
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:38,960
and

3563
02:12:43,350 --> 02:12:40,880
we'll still we're still figuring out

3564
02:12:45,350 --> 02:12:43,360
that uh balance here

3565
02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:45,360
unknown center says great quality guest

3566
02:12:48,790 --> 02:12:47,119
quality host good show well thank you

3567
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:48,800
for your kindness

3568
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:49,679
uh

3569
02:12:53,189 --> 02:12:51,440
yes and on the rise reminding everybody

3570
02:12:54,390 --> 02:12:53,199
everyone drop a like before you leave

3571
02:12:55,990 --> 02:12:54,400
it's free

3572
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:56,000
thanks for joining us tonight yeah

3573
02:13:00,390 --> 02:12:58,000
thanks for everybody who

3574
02:13:01,990 --> 02:13:00,400
joined us tonight uh always happy when

3575
02:13:04,069 --> 02:13:02,000
there's an audience today we had amazing

3576
02:13:06,069 --> 02:13:04,079
numbers especially compared to the last

3577
02:13:08,550 --> 02:13:06,079
couple of nights

3578
02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:08,560
veering off into other subjects i guess

3579
02:13:13,669 --> 02:13:11,040
so uh next week we've got some really

3580
02:13:16,310 --> 02:13:13,679
great stories for you and another

3581
02:13:18,069 --> 02:13:16,320
exclusive oh we have got a great

3582
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:18,079
exclusive story coming for you next week

3583
02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:20,159
can't wait to bring it to you but for

3584
02:13:24,069 --> 02:13:22,079
right now i will say it's been a rough

3585
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,079
week it's friday night

3586
02:13:27,669 --> 02:13:26,400
and it's quitting time friends so i

3587
02:13:30,629 --> 02:13:27,679
thank each and every one of you for

3588
02:13:33,350 --> 02:13:30,639
joining us quick time for the week right

3589
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:33,360
i will be back monday evening 7 p.m

3590
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:35,440
eastern standard time

3591
02:13:39,669 --> 02:13:37,520
uh thanks to our incredible guests

3592
02:13:42,069 --> 02:13:39,679
thanks to our incredible audience

3593
02:13:44,470 --> 02:13:42,079
and uh thanks for our chat room

3594
02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:44,480
moderators and thanks to spooky always

3595
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:46,239
helping with the show

3596
02:13:48,709 --> 02:13:47,040
so

3597
02:13:50,870 --> 02:13:48,719
i'm out of here it's quitting time

3598
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:50,880
friends i'm punching the clock and i'm

3599
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:53,360
done until monday at 7 pm

3600
02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:54,800
until next time friends my name is

3601
02:14:00,710 --> 02:13:56,880
stephen campion good night and god bless

3602
02:15:12,870 --> 02:14:21,110
[Music]

3603
02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:16,690
so

3604
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:19,690
[Music]

3605
02:16:02,070 --> 02:15:21,360
[Applause]